In Reply to: So what? posted by Rob Doorack on October 7, 2003 at 11:50:51:
part of being a teenager is establishing your own identity and seperating yourself from your parents. One way to do that is by adopting pop culture that isn't owned by adults and, even better, annoys most of them.
RG:
Add tattoos, piercings and cutting
Adults who denounce an entire genre of music as crap are just idiots. There's good and bad in all styles.
RG:
In my entire life (50 this month) I've only met one person who liked more musical genre's than me. I actually collected rap CD's for an entire year a few years ago (focus on one genre per year) and reached at least 50CDs. The wife, who is 54, is a big Eminem fan who has all his CD's, saw Eight Mile twice and attended the Eminem concert in Detroit last Summer. So we're not anti-rap here.I'm a very critical music listener -- I've purchased over 2,200 CDs since 1985 and have given away, or traded in, about 1/3 of them mainly due to mediocre music -- and few CDs were purchased unless I read or heard a good review first -- I didn't just pick them at random.
For the rap genre, I purchased about 50 CDs so far and traded in about 25 of them -- the worst percentage for any genre except new age where I think I traded in EVERY CD I purchased.
In my opinion, 19 out of 20 rap songs I've heard are not worth hearing twice, and as a result it's among my least favorite
genre's (new age is my least favorite, and reggae is my favorite).
The good news is about 5% of the rap songs are very good high energy music. Even if the artist is some white guy from Michigan like Eminem.I think rap got off to a very strong start in the late 1970's (ignoring the earlier reggae 'rap-like' toasting) but hasn't
advanced that much since then.Two groups that combine rap with other genres (US3 rap + jazz) and Blackalicious (rap + R&B) made great progress in creating rap style music that appeals to adults, especially the latest Blackalicious CD.
These groups allow me to introduce 40 to 60 year-old friends to rap music -- many won't move deeper into rap, but at least I get them to give it a try.Re: a rap CD that got good reviews, the Beastie Boy's "Paul's Boutique" -- I just can't figure out why some people like it so much.
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Follow Ups
- You're wrong ... 95% of rap (so far) is crap - Richard BassNut Greene 14:48:17 10/07/03 (14)
- Sturgeon's Law: 95% of EVERYTHING is crap. - chickenlogic 20:12:43 10/07/03 (1)
- Actually, he said 90% .... - Big Dave 02:36:08 10/08/03 (0)
- Re: You're wrong ... 95% of rap (so far) is crap - tuneman 19:47:00 10/07/03 (0)
- Re: You're wrong ... 95% of rap (so far) is crap - beasur 17:44:02 10/07/03 (2)
- Thanks for the rap tips -- I'll investigate every one - Richard BassNut Greene 18:09:10 10/07/03 (1)
- Re: Thanks for the rap tips -- I'll investigate every one - beasur 18:40:41 10/07/03 (0)
- I'm not wrong - Rob Doorack 17:34:58 10/07/03 (3)
- 95% is pretty close to 100% - Richard BassNut Greene 18:01:48 10/07/03 (2)
- But 95% is NOT 100% - Rob Doorack 22:39:40 10/07/03 (1)
- Re: But 95% is NOT 100% - D 05:56:46 10/08/03 (0)
- paul's boutique - TA 16:21:56 10/07/03 (0)
- And 95% of pop music is crap, too... - mishmashmusic 15:19:14 10/07/03 (1)
- I'd say 75% ... (versus 95% for rap) (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 15:43:37 10/07/03 (0)
- 75% of crap is rap [(c)rap] nt.. - BS64 15:14:38 10/07/03 (0)