are doomed to repeat it ( or something like that ) : )Other than the typical Tellig "review" of one of his "beloved" companies ( Triangle ) in the latest Stereophile, there is a two page article ( pages 23 & 24 ) as written by Paul Messenger about a B&O speaker. This article goes on to say that B&O has done extensive subjective research that highlights the importance of minimizing floor and ceiling reflections. The design of their "new" Beolab 5 speakers take this research into consideration.
Well, when i first looked at the speaker, two different designs that are both well over 20 years old came to mind instantly. The first one was the BIC Soundspan series of speakers. If you don't remember these, they made use of dynamic drivers that laid horizontally and were stacked vertically. The woofer was on the top of the cabinet with a mid stacked above it and then a tweeter. There were three different versions of this design with varying size woofers. The idea was that the radiation pattern of each driver was forced out horizontally by the fact that they were firing into the back of the driver that was mounted on top of it. This obviously produced a horizontal spray, but also reduced the effects of direct radiation. Some transient "snap" is obviously lost, but the effect was a far more spacious presentation made it harder to localize the source of the sound.
If you take this one step further, the BIC design was a budget approach at trying to reproduce the dispersion characteristics of the Ohm F. Obviously, BIC tried to use conventional drivers in a non-conventional array so as to keep costs down. None the less, one can see striking resemblances between the B&O and the twenty year old BIC's and almost thirty year old Ohm's. Granted, there are obvious differences such as the fact that the B&O's are powered and internally bi-amped, but the design principle and concepts used to achieve 360* horizontal radiation are still there almost a quarter century past their point of introduction.
How many other "new old ideas" are being marketed or written about simply because those writing about / marketing such products can't remember the past ? As i've said before, most audio designs are at the point of having to re-invent what we already know or have had. Many products of the past are actually better built and designed than what we have today. The only nod for current production pieces has to do with the fact that we have got better quality passive parts to work with now. Is audio moving forward, treading water or is it all marketing hype / media hoopla ? I'd love to hear others' thoughts on the subject. Sean
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Topic - Stereophile: Those that forget the past.... - Sean 15:58:09 05/23/03 (54)
- What's old, what's new? - David Aiken 14:23:46 05/24/03 (1)
- You are absolutely right.... - Sean 16:29:11 05/24/03 (0)
- you really MUST get out more :-) - Bare 11:54:26 05/24/03 (18)
- MORE! MUCH MORE! - John Marks 15:28:02 05/24/03 (17)
- Tuna on everyone's table! You go, John! - Rob Thomas 11:35:59 05/25/03 (2)
- Prehistoric music - John Marks 19:46:41 05/25/03 (1)
- Re: Prehistoric music and the first song... - Rob Thomas 10:21:06 05/26/03 (0)
- Thank you John - Metralla 16:46:42 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - Sean 15:55:08 05/24/03 (12)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - grooves 10:48:08 05/25/03 (6)
- "'conservatives' who are plundering the treasury" - clarkjohnsen 15:36:09 05/25/03 (2)
- Re: "'conservatives' who are plundering the treasury" - grooves 15:42:38 05/25/03 (1)
- Much better than your first answer! nt - clarkjohnsen 19:26:10 05/25/03 (0)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - Sean 12:53:43 05/25/03 (2)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - grooves 13:10:44 05/25/03 (1)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - Sean 13:45:14 05/25/03 (0)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - John Marks 20:04:53 05/24/03 (3)
- Re: MORE! MUCH MORE! - Sean 20:21:07 05/24/03 (2)
- "...MORE! MORE! MORE!... - desmond krimp 00:35:48 05/25/03 (0)
- Exposure and diversity - John Marks 20:51:25 05/24/03 (1)
- Re: Exposure and diversity - Sean 21:24:02 05/24/03 (0)
- My buddy who is an inventor says... - edta 07:32:17 05/24/03 (0)
- Old vs new. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 04:56:55 05/24/03 (4)
- Re: Old vs new. - feet's too big 09:50:48 05/26/03 (3)
- Re: Old vs new. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:41:10 05/26/03 (2)
- Once the bug bites you, eh?......(nt) - feet's too big 12:12:22 05/26/03 (1)
- More like genital crabs - no matter how much you scratch.....[nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:18:39 05/26/03 (0)
- Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - John Marks 16:48:33 05/23/03 (24)
- I thought you moved to Karachi? - Chris Garrett 15:36:37 05/24/03 (3)
- Not Karachi; Kingston; the other Kingston (not Basingstoke, either) - John Marks 15:58:42 05/24/03 (2)
- Eh? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:12:01 05/25/03 (0)
- Well, either way, glad to have you back......... - Chris Garrett 18:51:19 05/24/03 (0)
- Let me clarify some points.... - Sean 21:14:10 05/23/03 (11)
- "...On the Shoulder of Giants" attribution - paul_s 12:09:56 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Let me clarify some points.... - mikenificent1 07:50:49 05/24/03 (1)
- Why don't you try reading this... - Sean 09:04:26 05/24/03 (0)
- Given your strong feelings about giving credit where it's due... - David Spear 22:06:58 05/23/03 (7)
- actually... - paul_s 12:16:40 05/24/03 (2)
- It seems that Bernie was just another latecomer... - David Spear 00:11:05 05/25/03 (1)
- Where were you when Merton needed this information? - paul_s 13:54:32 05/25/03 (0)
- Thanks for clarifying that Dave... - Sean 22:14:34 05/23/03 (3)
- Heck, Isaac Newton probably snagged the line from somebody else! ;-) [nt] - David Spear 22:19:44 05/23/03 (2)
- He did. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 04:15:33 05/24/03 (1)
- LOL!!! SO AWESOME..................(nt) - Sordidman 11:15:00 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - hahax 20:06:58 05/23/03 (6)
- Your instincts may be right! - John Marks 08:30:28 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - mikenificent1 07:56:20 05/24/03 (2)
- Wrong once again... - Sean 17:04:39 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - hahax 09:50:41 05/24/03 (0)
- I may be quite wrong but... - David Aiken 00:40:26 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - Sean 21:20:05 05/23/03 (0)
- Re: Sorry, I believe you are quite wrong - Dan Banquer 17:42:08 05/23/03 (0)
- Nice post! I think there is a law of diminishing returns working - audiogatorjim 16:25:20 05/23/03 (1)
- Re: Nice post! I think there is a law of diminishing returns working - feet's too big 17:22:25 05/23/03 (0)