I had PayPal withdraw $1500 from my bank account to pay for a product. They withdrew the money, deposited it in the Merchant's account and then several hours later withdrew the money claiming there had been quote "A Security Violation".This was well over a month ago, and to-date, I have not been able to get my money back or for that matter, find out what the security violation was.
Since then, they have had me jumping through hoops, faxing them driver's licenses, utility bills, proof that the money was actually debited from my bank account and so on. They only want to correspond by email and each correspondance takes anywhere from 3-5 days for a response! For the most part, they have been completely unresponsive.
After digging like a miner for half an hour I finally found a customer service telephone number on their website. Calling this number was even less helpful. They didn't want to do ANYTHING via the telephone. I told them to cancel the transaction and deposit the money back into my account, "Oh we can't do that Mr. Welborne until you fax us all of the documents we asked for", said PayPal. I said, "you didn't need all of these documents to withdraw the money from my account, so you don't need them to put the money back into my account". She then hung up on me.
I called back and spoke to another representative...same response, so this time I asked to speak with their supervisor, "oh there is nobody else here for you to talk to" said PayPal...click. They hung up again.
So I called back again and asked for the telephone number of their legal representation so that my attorney could speak to their attorney...click, they hung up again.
PayPal'ers Beware. The last company that gave me THIS kind of runaround filed for Chapter 11 and I never saw a cent of the money they owed me.
I suspect it will be awhile before I get my money back and unfortunately my attorney will want his cut if he is successful. I personally will NEVER EVER use their services again and suggest to you, that if you must use PayPal that you only pay via a credit card. At least this way if PayPal tries to steal your money, you can let your bank duke it out with them at know cost to you.
Ron Welborne
Welborne Labs
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Topic - PayPal'ers Beware - Ron W 11:42:40 12/19/02 (75)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Poker Mike 14:36:41 12/20/02 (0)
- Question - CD 12:20:29 12/20/02 (1)
- Re: Question - James L 12:39:16 12/20/02 (0)
- I remember reading the TOS - Joe Blow 11:53:05 12/20/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Julien43 11:52:22 12/20/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Jareb 08:21:40 12/20/02 (1)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - vikeboy 16:08:36 12/21/02 (0)
- Doesn't eBay own PayPal ? (nt) - SR 08:01:10 12/20/02 (1)
- Yes they bought them out. - Sherlock 16:19:44 12/20/02 (0)
- Help! Paypal question - Michael M May 07:34:24 12/20/02 (4)
- Re: Help! Paypal question - Poker Mike 14:48:20 12/20/02 (0)
- Re: Help! Paypal question - some young guy 07:46:55 12/20/02 (2)
- I did that, and I was still able to log on an hour later. n/t - Michael M May 08:41:55 12/20/02 (1)
- Re: I did that, and I was still able to log on an hour later. n/t - agattu 23:00:21 12/20/02 (0)
- Thanks, I just cancelled my account... - Tim K. 06:19:36 12/20/02 (0)
- Why not report it to the Police as a theft? (nt) - Wordsmith 05:57:29 12/20/02 (3)
- Re: Why not report it to the Police as a theft? (nt) - SR 07:58:37 12/20/02 (2)
- Well, I guess I've been called worse things - Ron W 08:52:55 12/20/02 (1)
- Re: Well, I guess I've been called worse things - SR 10:39:56 12/20/02 (0)
- Hate to say it, but . . . - BillH 05:13:03 12/20/02 (0)
- Thanks Everybody, I'm Outta There. ..nt - Vic D 05:00:47 12/20/02 (0)
- Never used my account but just cancelled it. - AbeCollins 22:31:54 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - mark maloof 22:30:38 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - gena 21:20:21 12/19/02 (0)
- Just cancelled my account after visiting www.paypalwarning.com (nt) - Mike N. 20:55:08 12/19/02 (0)
- on december 2nd... - some young guy 20:47:42 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Jazz Inmate 20:11:35 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - jimrick1 19:56:37 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - gena 19:47:29 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Steve T 17:22:08 12/19/02 (4)
- OK - Now I am confused........ - Cut-Throat 17:51:57 12/19/02 (3)
- Re: OK - Now I am confused........ - SteveT 18:21:26 12/19/02 (2)
- Re: Maybe ??? - Jeff Starr 07:55:38 12/20/02 (0)
- You could be right................. - Cut-Throat 18:23:58 12/19/02 (0)
- No more PayPal for me. [nt] - gdahl 16:26:01 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Rcreations 15:20:06 12/19/02 (0)
- I pulled out of PayPal, too! Glad I did! - seasterl 14:08:10 12/19/02 (3)
- Ditto for me [nt] - Arvind Kohli 17:36:45 12/19/02 (2)
- Me Too (nt) - Jecopo 05:55:14 12/20/02 (1)
- Same here(nt) - darkmoebius 11:32:58 12/20/02 (0)
- NEVER pay directly from a bank account - James L 13:36:49 12/19/02 (1)
- ditto... - mark111 07:07:41 12/22/02 (0)
- Possibly better alternative for Canadians? - AM 13:29:16 12/19/02 (0)
- Agreed, they're theives! - Rod M 13:14:00 12/19/02 (10)
- Re: Agreed, they're theives! - James L 14:55:01 12/19/02 (6)
- Re: Agreed, they're theives! - Rod M 15:29:11 12/19/02 (5)
- Re: Agreed, they're theives! - James L 15:53:46 12/19/02 (4)
- BTW: Check out Paypal's plan per their SEC filing.... - Rod M 17:04:41 12/19/02 (1)
- Re: BTW: Check out Paypal's plan per their SEC filing.... - Ross 09:48:59 12/23/02 (0)
- Re: Agreed, they're theives! - Rod M 16:23:36 12/19/02 (0)
- There are other VERY low cost alternatives. - mikemalter 16:06:12 12/19/02 (0)
- Billpoint to take over/merge with Paypal next year..... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:47:24 12/19/02 (1)
- Re: Billpoint to take over/merge with Paypal next year..... - Rod M 15:21:01 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: Agreed, they're theives! - John 14:33:42 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - DAVID 13:08:09 12/19/02 (0)
- Yep........... - Cut-Throat 12:54:13 12/19/02 (1)
- Thanks for the info. Just deleted my account. <nt> - Dan 13:18:02 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - sam9 12:53:14 12/19/02 (0)
- Same Story Different Place - John EH 12:50:44 12/19/02 (0)
- Thanks for the head's up - Bob C 12:48:57 12/19/02 (0)
- You know eBay now owns PayPal... nt - mishmashmusic 12:47:31 12/19/02 (0)
- I've had no problems BUT .... - Big Dave 12:40:29 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - jeff mai 12:39:18 12/19/02 (0)
- Two lessons learned - RB122 12:37:09 12/19/02 (1)
- Correct.... - SR 18:17:40 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Joseph 2 12:33:41 12/19/02 (0)
- I closed my account out of sympathy - RonyW 12:33:27 12/19/02 (3)
- It cost me $2.50 to close my account today! - mikemalter 16:02:45 12/19/02 (1)
- Dummy! - Rod M 18:07:14 12/19/02 (0)
- Ditto - vrgard 13:49:15 12/19/02 (0)
- Credit Cards Rule & other PayPal lies. - mikemalter 11:54:54 12/19/02 (3)
- Ah, that's what happened to me - Ron W 12:00:49 12/19/02 (2)
- That sucks. This might help. - driver 12:30:09 12/19/02 (1)
- This makes me sick! - Ron W 14:30:30 12/19/02 (0)
- Re: PayPal'ers Beware - Magnetar 11:53:07 12/19/02 (0)