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In Reply to: Re: Definition of Irony posted by Joe II-V on August 4, 2001 at 12:58:45:
It appears, Joe, that you may have listened to too much Alanis Morissette. Virtually all of what she describes as "ironic" is simply unfortunate coincidence. True irony necessitates that a statement clearly communicate one premise (the literal meaning to which you refer) while subtly suggesting that the converse of this literal meaning is in fact the real truth. So lets look at your statements taken DIRECTLY from your post (not out of context): "this amp is intended to be used with a PC to provide better quality sound than you would get via a soundcard and crappy plastic speakers." This is, by your own admission, a true statement, and therefore lacks the capacity to express irony. "How does applying the Red Rose logo and slapping on a $2000 price hike suddenly make it a high-end amp?" This is a rhetorical question which qualifies as tongue-in-cheek, perhaps, but the reader can reasonably reach only one of two conclusions- (1) (by some unnamed mechanism) logo plus price tag DO transform the Korsun into a high end amp or (2) logo plus price tag DO NOT transform cheap-fi into high-fi. Since you make no STATEMENT, neither reasonable conclusion can be seen as contrary in meaning, thereby excluding irony. "Oh, sorry, I forgot, they're not the same: one is an inexpensive piece from China and the other is a inexpensive piece from China with a Designer label." The stated meaning is that there is no functional difference in the two pieces of equipment, and cosmetic differences are limited to the name badge. Therefore, you state simply that the two amps are essentially identical. In order for this to even come close to being ironic, the reader must necessarily conclude that you actually intended to express that the opposite is indeed the case- i.e., that the Red Rose product is so superior to the Korsun as to make the statement patently ludicrous at face value. Again, this would qualify much more as tongue-in-cheek than ironic.Now, what I would love to see would be a head-to-head comparison, by Mr. Levinson, of a Red Rose Rosette (from his showroom) to a Korsun U2 which is in ACTUALITY (and unbeknownst to him) a Red Rose Rosette bought from his store and re-rebadged with the Korsun logo. Why, for him to declare the "Rosette" the clear sonic champion of such a duel would be, well... what’s the word for that?
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