I came upon this intresting article in a Stereo Review magazine..that I apparently overlooked. There was a very very intresting article written by Tom Nousaine called 'To tweak, or not to tweak ?' in Stereo Review's June 1998 issue.He apparently gathered up a listening panel and did a A and B ( or as he calls it Tweak and Geek system) test. With a system of massive difference in price.
The tweak system composed of : PS Audio Digital Link II outboard D/A convertor, Musical Design SP-1 vaccum tube preamplifier, Bryston 4 B-NRB power amplifier, Tributaries Silver interconnects and Monster Cable Sigma 2.2s speaker cables. COST : $ 5000
The geek system composed of : Heathkit AP-1615 pre amp (homemade preamp ?), Parasound HCA-800 II power amp, zipcord interconnects and 16 gauge zip cord. COST: $300
He used the same CD player and speakers for both the systems , which were Marantz CD-63 and PSB Stratus Mini loudspeakers respectively.
Anyhow...the tweak system was in addition properly tweaked (solid rack, vibration isolations devices, warmed up, cable elevated from floor...the works). The geek system...nothing.
A lot of other things were done (which I have no time to write right now :) ).
The whole system was hidden from view from the listening panel with only the speakers exposed. Listeners listend and for the most part could not hear a difference and if they did notice a differnce they opted to the geek system !!! :? The panel had a mix of hardcore audio philes, musicians, teachers etc...
Now thats wierd...
I have no access to form such a test and get equipment like that. But I would 'think' that the tweak system would kill the geek system. But I guess not...
I mean what Tom concluded that the speakers and speaker placement was the most crucial thing for sound 'improvement'. Cables, interconnets, amps, preamps, tweaks...do nothing to the sound. Thats what I assumed with his wordings.
Very intresting...the magazine should be available at your local library.
Tell me what you 'audiophiles' think :)
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Topic - To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Mohammed 15:06:04 07/24/99 (121)
- Old news-your point? - Jack G 04:48:31 07/26/99 (1)
- Re: Old news-your point? - Pat D 16:30:46 07/29/99 (0)
- I agree with Dan... - Rob Bertrando 09:12:50 07/25/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Thorsten 08:17:32 07/25/99 (10)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dr. T 11:48:21 07/26/99 (8)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Thorsten 05:39:07 07/27/99 (7)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dr. T 07:45:40 07/27/99 (6)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Thorsten 08:45:34 07/27/99 (5)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dr. T 12:46:55 07/27/99 (4)
- bad service, Dr. T... - gnat 00:04:40 07/28/99 (3)
- Re: bad service, Dr. T... - Dr. T 07:59:22 07/29/99 (2)
- Re: my point - gnat 03:41:50 07/30/99 (1)
- Re: my point - Dr. T 13:06:21 07/30/99 (0)
- Re: The Parasound Amp costs more than $ 300 by itself ? - Joey C 01:35:24 07/25/99 (1)
- Re: The Parasound Amp costs more than $ 300 by itself ? - Pat D 16:27:03 07/29/99 (0)
- We went through this last year! - Chris S. 20:17:21 07/24/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dan Bonhomme 18:16:30 07/24/99 (108)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dan B 18:09:14 07/26/99 (38)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Pat D 16:56:32 07/28/99 (37)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - jfp 21:43:59 07/28/99 (1)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Pat D 13:35:51 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - john curl 21:11:30 07/28/99 (5)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Pat D 14:10:39 07/29/99 (4)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Dan Bonhomme 08:40:04 07/30/99 (3)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Pat D 13:51:57 07/30/99 (0)
- UHF Philosophy Link - Dan Bonhomme 10:37:36 07/30/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - john curl 09:46:44 07/30/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - jfp 17:11:26 07/28/99 (27)
- Actually...... - Rod M 17:41:18 07/28/99 (26)
- Yinno, Rod - jj 19:16:35 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: Actually...... - Pat D 13:20:15 07/29/99 (20)
- Isn't it obvious...... - Rod M 13:39:27 07/29/99 (19)
- Re: Isn't it obvious...... - Pat D 14:25:11 07/29/99 (18)
- Well, Pat - jj 19:45:05 07/29/99 (0)
- What's the point? - Rod M 15:07:01 07/29/99 (13)
- Re: What's the point? - Pat D 16:11:07 07/29/99 (12)
- Slow switching - jj 19:50:37 07/29/99 (10)
- Re: Slow switching - Pat D 14:33:24 07/30/99 (9)
- Re: Slow switching - jj 20:51:13 07/30/99 (8)
- Re: Slow switching - jfp 00:06:46 07/31/99 (3)
- DBT in British mags - Dan Bonhomme 07:32:13 07/31/99 (2)
- Re: DBT in British mags - jfp 21:20:12 07/31/99 (0)
- Re: Your example - jj 08:24:10 07/31/99 (0)
- Re: Slow switching - jfp 21:59:48 07/30/99 (3)
- Once again . . . - jj 08:21:20 07/31/99 (2)
- Re: Once again . . . - jfp 11:13:43 07/31/99 (1)
- How about some evidence - jj 22:00:30 07/31/99 (0)
- I keep wondering why..... - Rod M 16:55:09 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: Maybe it isn't so obvious...... - jfp 14:32:29 07/29/99 (2)
- Measurements? - jj 19:54:31 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: Maybe it isn't so obvious...... - Pat D 15:45:32 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: Actually...... - jfp 18:54:06 07/28/99 (3)
- Re: Actually...... - Rod M 08:01:31 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: Actually...... - john curl 20:38:25 07/28/99 (1)
- Re: Actually...... - jfp 21:26:56 07/28/99 (0)
- DBT's work for audio. Period. There is no doubt - jj 20:40:27 07/24/99 (67)
- Re: DBT's work for audio. Period. There is no doubt - Victor Khomenko 05:56:57 07/26/99 (11)
- TtrVth? - jj 13:12:42 07/26/99 (10)
- Preference? - Thorsten 07:49:39 07/28/99 (9)
- Re: Preference? Of course it's preference. - jj 10:48:32 07/28/99 (8)
- Re: Preference? Of course it's preference. - Thorsten 03:14:59 07/29/99 (7)
- Um, it's always possible to design a bad test - jj 19:40:54 07/29/99 (6)
- Re: Um, it's always possible to design a bad test - jfp 20:34:36 07/31/99 (4)
- Let's stop spinning our wheels! - Rod M 06:34:37 08/01/99 (0)
- More jfp mind games - jj 22:21:13 07/31/99 (2)
- One other point... - jj 22:36:42 07/31/99 (0)
- Ack. More dyslexia - jj 22:25:28 07/31/99 (0)
- JJ, Preference is not in the Picture, this is about the existense or nonexistence of audible differences.... (nt) - Thorsten 09:31:34 07/31/99 (0)
- DBT's work for audio? - Dan B 18:31:16 07/25/99 (5)
- Re: DBT's work for audio? - john curl 09:03:29 07/28/99 (1)
- Re: DBT's work for audio? - Dan Bonhomme 13:38:31 07/28/99 (0)
- Re: DBT's work for audio? - Norm Strong 19:07:15 07/27/99 (0)
- Re: DBT's work for audio. Period. There is no doubt - jfp 22:41:57 07/24/99 (25)
- Re: DBT's work for audio? - Dan Bonhomme 15:35:11 07/26/99 (3)
- Re: DBT's work for audio? - Pat D 17:14:24 07/28/99 (0)
- I agree on one point..... - Rod M 08:50:45 07/25/99 (5)
- Re: I agree on one point..... - jfp 14:23:08 07/25/99 (4)
- Re: I agree on one point..... - Rod M 08:59:56 07/26/99 (0)
- experimental methods - Rob Bertrando 16:09:40 07/25/99 (2)
- well said, jfp - Nick K 08:07:59 07/25/99 (11)
- Re: well said, jfp - jfp 16:54:27 07/26/99 (9)
- Re: well said, jfp - john curl 23:37:40 07/27/99 (0)
- Valid Studies - jj 22:23:47 07/27/99 (7)
- ACK. Dyslexia strikes - jj 08:10:06 07/29/99 (0)
- Re: What Valid Studies? - jfp 20:55:23 07/28/99 (5)
- Um, you can't judge preference - jj 08:04:17 07/29/99 (4)
- Re: Um, you can't judge preference - jfp 10:13:39 07/29/99 (3)
- JFP RESORTS TO MISSTATING POSITIONS AGAIN - jj 12:42:26 07/29/99 (2)
- Re: JJ CRIES FOUL--AGAIN! - jfp 14:07:41 07/29/99 (1)
- If you don't like it, stop mis-stating my positions - jj 19:01:40 07/29/99 (0)
- I dare you to prove that Nousaine's methodology... - Rich 20:51:41 07/24/99 (7)
- How typical. Please think straight the next time - jj 17:57:20 07/25/99 (4)
- Re: How typical. Please think straight the next time - jfp 21:23:02 07/25/99 (3)
- Evidence please? - jj 23:23:50 07/25/99 (2)
- Re: Go read a book! - jfp 08:20:36 07/26/99 (1)
- Please stop misstating my position! - jj 09:24:54 07/26/99 (0)
- You may be waiting a while... - Rod M 08:12:41 07/25/99 (1)
- Actually, Rod - jj 18:04:16 07/25/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Sean H 16:44:42 07/24/99 (10)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Sean H 16:48:02 07/24/99 (9)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Mohammed 17:14:46 07/24/99 (7)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Norm Strong 15:40:27 07/25/99 (3)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Jon Risch 20:22:11 07/25/99 (1)
- normal retail markups - Rob Bertrando 21:09:33 07/25/99 (0)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Sean H 18:09:59 07/24/99 (1)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Bob Meyer 21:07:28 07/24/99 (0)
- Yes, I frequently like to tweak Tom Nousaine - Edp 16:05:06 07/24/99 (2)
- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!(nt) - jack G 06:11:25 07/26/99 (0)
- Stack how many? - Rod M 16:23:04 07/24/99 (0)
- What crap! - Rich 15:51:36 07/24/99 (4)
- Re: What crap! - Wallaby Jim of the Islands 20:53:43 07/24/99 (0)
- Oh, real nice Rich - Slappy 16:45:33 07/24/99 (1)
- Re: To tweak, or not to tweak ? - Tom Nousaine - Rod M 15:23:04 07/24/99 (12)
- Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Mohammed 17:03:53 07/24/99 (10)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Dr. T 07:56:49 07/26/99 (0)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Jack G 05:45:03 07/26/99 (0)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Thorsten 08:07:46 07/25/99 (4)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Dr. T 08:00:02 07/26/99 (3)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Thorsten 09:20:13 07/26/99 (0)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Dan Bonhomme 09:08:14 07/26/99 (0)
- Re: Why he used PSB Stratus Minis ... - Keith 17:25:08 07/24/99 (1)