RE: interesting question beppe... Really?

Posted by Jeff Starr (A) on July 21, 2015 at 17:45:36

In Reply to: interesting question beppe... posted by Tom Schuman on July 21, 2015 at 11:50:19:

I always hope people look at the system used to evaluate, and then make statements about kool-aid.

There have been many improvements in dac chips in the last 15 years. The way they use those chips, is key to improvements. A great chip with a poorly excuted analog output stage, whether using one of the newer op-amps or fully discrete will mask those improvements.

A good dac will have full attention to every detail including the power supply. Then there is synergy with your system.

I have read posts from people who I respect that prefer older dacs, and that may make sense in their system, or their personal taste.

I need to update my system in my "Inmate Systems" but I just went through a dac change. It was a horizontal move. My Camelot was replaced for input options as well as sound. Over the years I have found that the transport and digital cable can have a bigger effect on sound then some believe. More then I had believed, until I heard it in my own system.

Making statements about kool-aid, based on a single comparison, in a system that may sound quite nice, but does not have the ability to expose low level details, is misleading to the less informed. And I did see "IMO". So in my opinion there are way too many variables to make a blanket statement about modern dacs.

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RE: Wow - I actually found a new Blu-ray player with analog outs for less than $100 - ppopp 08:39:43 07/22/15 (1)

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RE: I've got the BDP150, not bad - beppe61 08:36:37 07/21/15 (5)

interesting question beppe... - Tom Schuman 11:50:19 07/21/15 (4)

RE: interesting question beppe... - beppe61 22:12:16 07/21/15 (0)

RE: interesting question beppe... Really? - Jeff Starr 17:45:36 07/21/15 (2)

clarification - Tom Schuman 00:37:03 07/22/15 (1)

RE: clarification - Jeff Starr 11:19:48 07/22/15 (0)

RE: Wow - I actually found a new Blu-ray player with analog outs for less than $100 - beppe61 04:19:25 07/20/15 (0)

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RE: interesting question beppe... Really? - Jeff Starr 17:45:36 07/21/15 (2)

clarification - Tom Schuman 00:37:03 07/22/15 (1)

RE: clarification - Jeff Starr 11:19:48 07/22/15 (0)

RE: interesting question beppe... Really?

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