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RE: used Bryston or Wadia DAC

Posted by RGA (R) on June 7, 2015 at 18:34:30

In Reply to: RE: used Bryston or Wadia DAC posted by wood1 on June 5, 2015 at 17:53:36:

You simply can't go by units you happen to see on the second hand market - there is a thing called sales volume. The more something sells the more of then you will see on the second hand market and Bryston sells a whole ton more than Wadia.

I see this argument all too often - yeah I am sure we all see more Ford's on the second hand market than Bentley and Bugatti as well. If you sell 100 times more units you are going to see them on the second hand market - indeed if it's only 4 times as much and not 100 times as much then it's probably doing really well.

The link below is one machine investigated one machine caught. If they do it once who is to say they're not always doing it? This industry has a lot of audio-jewelry issues where small companies are basically adding nice casework (and mostly ONLY nice casework) and then charging top dollar for it. Or they add some $50 of bits and charge idiotic money.

Bryston is bigger - they have economies of scale working for them and in theory should be able to build the same quality as smaller outfits for much less money. They don't need to rebadge Marantz/Philips machines - they can buy a transport but they have their own designers implement the machine. SO their transport used the Philips L1210 mechanism - Audio Note uses the same Philips L1210 transport mechanism and both of them will sound entirely different from one another because each companies designs the rest of the unit. Wadia buys an entire Marantz machine and puts it inside their own casework and charges 5+ times the money. Theta Data Universal did the same thing - took an ENTIRE Philips Laserdisc player - case included - and stuck it inside their own sheet metal and charged $5000 for a $399 Philips player.

Unfortunately they found a reviewer to rave about it and seduce people out of wasting thousands of dollars for a $399 machine (could have bought 12 of them instead).

Chinese companies have also been building gear for many years and American and European companies bought them up and put their own labels on them. Which is why I find it funny that there is so much anti-Chinese sentiment when a lot of stuff is just re-badged Chinese gear from over a decade ago. It is not actually always Chinese knocking off US gear - it's US gear re-badging Chinese made gear - or Japanese gear.

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