Hi just curious ... they are out of my reach.
Because if they are really good we should reconsider the delta-sigma dac chips, at least the ad1955 used in both (moreover not a very expensive part at all at 14 USD/eac)
So maybe speaking generally in a bad way of sigma-delta dacs is quite misleading and basically not correct. There are good and bad ones.
I am really hard trying to understand if this "multibit revival" is completely justified and the only way to get good sound is to go and hunt for one of these old dacs.
One of those cases in which the heart says "Yes !" and the mind ... "WTF !"
Thanks.P.S. in the meantime i have found that both the Spectral SDR 4000 SL and a TOTL Jeff Rowland converter use a AD1853
Maybe in Analog Devices they have got the sigma-delta concept right ?
Kind regards,
bg
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Topic - Berkeley Audio and Bricasti dacs ... are they ok ? - beppe61 04:20:47 04/29/15 (50)
- I have heard the Berkeley Reference in 5 different systems - Sordidman 14:37:10 04/29/15 (29)
- " low level detail " - how to check this ? - beppe61 09:01:22 04/30/15 (24)
- while (more rec's) ... - TBone 08:08:32 05/06/15 (0)
- Suggestion and what to listen for ... - Mike C 16:11:00 05/01/15 (1)
- RE: Suggestion and what to listen for ... - beppe61 06:05:36 05/02/15 (0)
- + Claude Chalhoub - Sordidman 14:17:21 04/30/15 (12)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - beppe61 23:44:18 04/30/15 (4)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Crazy Dave 07:45:54 05/05/15 (2)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - beppe61 11:03:37 05/05/15 (1)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Crazy Dave 11:35:28 05/07/15 (0)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Sordidman 12:39:51 05/01/15 (0)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Sprezza Tura 16:53:20 04/30/15 (6)
- I guess - Awe-d-o-file 17:05:03 05/05/15 (3)
- RE: I guess - Sprezza Tura 17:57:44 05/05/15 (2)
- +2 -t - Sordidman 11:47:07 05/06/15 (0)
- sad but true ... - TBone 18:50:12 05/05/15 (0)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Sordidman 12:22:35 05/01/15 (1)
- RE: + Claude Chalhoub - Sprezza Tura 14:15:59 05/01/15 (0)
- A couple more additions to TBone's good suggestions - Sordidman 11:32:34 04/30/15 (5)
- RR/HDCD ... - TBone 12:01:08 04/30/15 (4)
- RR has 24/176 Downloads and HRX Discs too. nt - oldmkvi 12:24:23 04/30/15 (3)
- yes, but redundant ... - TBone 06:43:17 05/01/15 (2)
- The Dacs mentioned cost $6000 to $9000, just to play CDs? - oldmkvi 07:20:17 05/01/15 (1)
- again ... - TBone 10:59:34 05/01/15 (0)
- some suggestions ... - TBone 09:38:34 04/30/15 (1)
- RE: some suggestions ... - beppe61 10:18:06 04/30/15 (0)
- RE: I have heard the Berkeley Reference in 5 different systems - beppe61 22:50:14 04/29/15 (0)
- Low Level Detail - Mike C 16:58:34 04/29/15 (2)
- transparency ... - TBone 18:25:34 04/29/15 (1)
- RE: transparency ... - Crazy Dave 11:58:20 04/30/15 (0)
- on the fence ... - TBone 08:12:11 04/29/15 (2)
- I think the Berkeley is delta-sigma. nt - jusbe 11:51:51 04/29/15 (0)
- RE: on the fence ... - beppe61 09:21:41 04/29/15 (0)
- RE: Berkeley Audio and Bricasti dacs ... are they ok ? - knewton 05:44:16 04/29/15 (16)
- Sorry ... what about the Analog Devices AD1852 ? - beppe61 00:15:21 04/30/15 (11)
- meridian 588 ... - TBone 06:31:34 04/30/15 (3)
- RE: meridian 588 ... - beppe61 08:49:22 04/30/15 (2)
- note ... - TBone 09:01:40 04/30/15 (1)
- RE: note ... - beppe61 09:16:48 04/30/15 (0)
- RE: Sorry ... what about the Analog Devices AD1852 ? - knewton 05:30:53 04/30/15 (6)
- RE: Sorry ... what about the Analog Devices AD1852 ? - beppe61 06:27:21 04/30/15 (5)
- RE: Sorry ... what about the Analog Devices AD1852 ? - TBone 06:32:44 04/30/15 (4)
- RE: Sorry ... what about the Analog Devices AD1852 ? - beppe61 08:30:57 04/30/15 (3)
- golden hex5c ... - TBone 10:06:01 04/30/15 (2)
- Another strong and valuable suggestion ... - beppe61 00:00:17 05/01/15 (0)
- RE: golden hex5c ... - beppe61 10:26:54 04/30/15 (0)
- RE: Berkeley Audio and Bricasti dacs ... are they ok ? - fantja 15:15:08 04/29/15 (0)
- +1 -t - Sordidman 14:38:41 04/29/15 (0)
- so true ... - TBone 07:37:11 04/29/15 (0)
- RE: Berkeley Audio and Bricasti dacs ... are they ok ? - beppe61 06:18:28 04/29/15 (0)