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Re: Much Ado

Posted by Jon Risch (B) on October 1, 2002 at 19:51:40

In Reply to: Re: Much Ado posted by Steve Eddy on September 30, 2002 at 15:06:45:

Obviously, I struck a nerve here.

As for what specifc post/s you have problems with folks sharing their experiences with materials and geometry, well, I speak from personal experience, as you do tend to focus on me and my posts.

I doubt that I have a real need to provide any URL, your replies and comments have been more than once, and less than restrained.

I stand by my comments, you are 'guilty' of some of the very things you have railed against, and when the shoe is on the other foot, somehow, it just doesn't fit, at least in your mind.

[ The beef about the patent was simply a beef about the patent. I've had a number of beefs about patents here in the past. ]

I do have to wonder why you were perusing the Kimber patent at all, not planning to patent your own particular braid and geometry, were you? ;-)
Just an observation that you did seem rather pissed about it, and way disproportionate to the whole idea of "just trying this litz-wire braided cable thing out". I seriously doubt that Ray Kimber is going to knock down your door (Alright, open up! Cable police!) and have you hauled away because you braided up some interconnects.

[ And somewhat like yourself, I too was obsessed with objective specs. ]

You have a mistaken idea about this, and despite my efforts to dispel it, you persist. As you are quite aware, I base my materials and geometry recommendations in large part on "That Which May Not Be Discussed (Or Even Mentioned In Front Of Steve, Ere He Explode With Outrage)" type listening tests. This goes a bit beyond simple personal preferences and biases. It is also wholly subjectively based, and based on extensive listening exprience under a variety of conditions.

In any case, I go with what sounds the best, and make an effort to try and correlate that with the relevant factors as they are known at this time. There is absolutely no doubt that some of the fundamental cable parameters DO affect the sound in certain instances. This can usually be backed-up with various measurements, and so has some credible correlation factor. You yourself seem to agree, citing improving shielding as reducing noise as just one example.

It is once we go beyond these simpler aspects that it gets much more difficult to put one's finger on exact causes. It is also more difficult as to where to put that line where we have to say "we just don't know why" something sounds as it does.

Obviously, your idea of where that line is, is much closer to just the basics than mine is.

I have covered some of the philisophical aspects in a post over in General:
http://www.AudioAsylum.com/audio/general/messages/206918.html

[ It's this intolerance of yours that insists YOUR road is the ONLY valid road that I find so distasteful. ]

Well, you have made your feelings about me known quite vocally. I don't think that that is in question. What is in question is whether or not you are indeed correct, and that I actually do insist such as you say I do. I don't feel that I do, to any great extent.
I get VERY few complaints, primarily from cable naysayers who just want total freedom to denigrate and flame folks here.

I fully expect yet another vitrolic and over the top response, and as I have done in the past, I will probably not reply any further, it is pointless and fruitless once the mud slinging has started.

Jon Risch

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