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In Reply to: Re: Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... posted by Frank on January 29, 2003 at 12:46:09:
Thanks Frank,I find your posts very clear and factual.
Did you find other notable differences in the surround mixes?
(These are just subjective impressions on my end of other records, to see if they match yours.)- Some sounds being above listening position or above you in DVD-A, but not in SACD (circle effect, but nothing really above ear level)
- Surround effects in SACD being slightly "non-focused" (I don't mean a fuzzy image, very detailed but no firm point where elements are located, things floating around in a very nice, but slightly eerie way, impression that people are not "grounded" to the floor...)
(I hope this makes sense)Thanks for your comments
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Follow Ups:
Eric,FGTH - Rage Hard -The Sonic Collection
Track 5 - Welcome to the Pleasuredome, first 90 seconds.
Sounds coming from every direction, most certainly from above my head in some cases (birds, sound of something which goes around the room and above my head).I understand that you're talking about DVD-A and SACD versions of the same music, but if the FGTH SACD can have the effects you're missing from some other SACDs (Frantic by Brian Ferry, I guess), wouldn't it mean that it is possible to mix an SACD with 'above your head' effects?
My surround speakers are at ear level, some 1.5 meters behind the listening position (sofa).
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I need to get a copy of that FGHT (ZTT lost my order), and check it out. I also have some 'up and above' effects in the Beck Sea Change (most obviously at the end of Track 1), but it is usually a very precise element, not the impression of a sonic 'ceiling' or 'roof' that you have above you during a track. I find many DVD-A tracks give you that impression (the same you have at a live concert, when sometimes you can't help raise your head to see where a sound came from). I almost never have that impression in SACDs.
Perhaps it's all in the mix, or my brain getting old :)Frank's answer below is also interesting ("more airy, less substance").
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I agree with your subjective impressions. More airy but less substance to sum it all up.The mix on the Bucky Pizarelli DVDA disc is a 4.0 mc config and the sacd is mixed to 5.1 mc.
Since both are derived from a ambisonics B recording I don't see much difference in the actual mix.
Your English is obviously more concise :)Best
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