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Do recall that I am trained in these issues and spent a good deal of my career measuring and designing industry-level reforms. In each case supported and inputted by the majority of the businesses involved! so not top-down policy!
And her goes. I'm not certain, did anyone raise? the effect all of those downsizing cycles have had on the relationship 'tween them and US, or YOU and us Koots! ;-)!.While I'm sure that some downsizing has been valid, I'm also fairly confident it was - for most managers - driven by the short-term thinking a day-by-day obsession with share-price and market-buzz tends to drive in mgrs behaviour. ever tighter budgets?
Also, I think it is true of the business world - in my time trying to assist it via policy, OR design in automated/EC business procedures, and since -
that short term expectations / imperatives -
'managers have to produce results quickly' / acceptance that 'they may not stay-on'
- arose long before downsizing did.
I think we've commoditised work so much, that trust and other human values / golden rules have had to give. QED.
And, that's why I'm not a 'conservative'!, sorry guys! Noting that maximising employer power over the employee's over the 'employment contract', can come back to bite you, anyway! Clearly! Makes me grin!? Nature is full of these correcting tendencies.
But once we know we do it, why don't we stop!? Cos we're animals, guys! sheep? not quite I ween, but I did used to make sheep-bahhing noises during meetings! ;-) yep!?
And, I am on about conserving human decency!
I think allowing markets, to operate anyway they want, always and in every case,
-especially for PEOPLE, who are inseparable from their work in all ways -
Is a disgusting and amoral idea! NO-one, not even the USA does that, ;-)! ;-)!
I like capitalism and democracy as balancers of each other. ;-)! twinned values!
And that voting is a duty, as well as a right!
Anyone else have some favourite pairs?
Warmest
Timbo in Oz
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio ScroungerAnd gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
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Edits: 06/26/08
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Topic - Employee loyalty / turnover etc! re Kootenay's recent post! I held off for a while to collect my thoughts - Timbo in Oz 23:20:01 06/26/08 (18)
- Well said Tim…. - kootenay 12:50:36 06/27/08 (1)
- iss hokay, man! To paraphrase one of George Carlin's skits - Timbo in Oz 14:07:56 06/27/08 (0)
- Anyone else have some favourite pairs? - John_the_Scot 23:41:14 06/26/08 (15)
- How about a pair of Fish ??? - three_sox 00:33:02 06/27/08 (3)
- Did anybody notice the green rope behind her.... - kootenay 07:43:14 06/27/08 (2)
- RE: Did anybody notice the green rope behind her.... - Grover 08:31:46 06/27/08 (1)
- What the hump is going on around here?.... - kootenay 13:02:26 06/27/08 (0)
- Halma Sayek - can't put a face to her, but I remember she was rather more than a nice pair! - Timbo in Oz 23:50:59 06/26/08 (10)
- Remind me which anti monarchist Scot you mean Tim - John_the_Scot 13:40:59 06/27/08 (2)
- there was a Scot MP who was always pointing out their cost and flaws - Timbo in Oz 13:46:00 06/27/08 (1)
- Willie Hamilton - of Fife! - Timbo in Oz 14:01:49 06/27/08 (0)
- Timbo.... - feet's too big 00:49:04 06/27/08 (6)
- Geeze yer an erudite bastard, Bill! - Timbo in Oz 01:19:48 06/27/08 (5)
- Erudite?... I do what I can, Tim... :o) - feet's too big 03:12:28 06/27/08 (4)
- I KNOW I'm erudite Bill, can't help it! kinda guy I AM - Timbo in Oz 04:23:22 06/27/08 (1)
- Bearing in mind.... - feet's too big 06:22:27 06/27/08 (0)
- wotabaht the workers but, Bill! - Timbo in Oz 04:21:00 06/27/08 (1)
- As always, Tim.... - feet's too big 05:53:51 06/27/08 (0)