In Reply to: The Power of Poor Memory... posted by E-Stat on October 15, 2010 at 12:26:48:
If you had read the whole thread, you would have found that it is not possible to prove the null hypothesis.E-stat
"I still await a single report of any findings to support the "all cables sound the same notion" using equipment better than a mid-fi receiver and bookshelf speakers."You have evidently given up trying to show that there are audible differences between audio cables, which would mean providing evidence to reject the null hypothesis. You then you try to suggest mtrycrafts should prove a null hypothesis, to provide reports for something it is impossible to establish. There is no burden of proof to establish something does not exist, the problem is to show that they do. So not only have you tried a "tu quoque" argument (which is irrelevant to the audio questions), but you have failed to provide true one.
The real problem is to find reports which establish that there are audible differences between speaker wires -- and and of course, DBTs have found audible differences if the differences in resistance are great enough to audibly affect the frequency response into a speaker load. And you have consistently refused to figure out how much that difference would be.
Now, if you had bothered to read the sophisticated discussion in the whole thread, you would find that one can not establish that two things sound the same--which is the null hypothesis. There is no burden of proof to establish something it is impossible to establish.
Yet you are silly enough to ask the mtrycrafts provide evidence to support a negative hypothesis *YOU* have laid out! The problem is to disprove the null hypothesis. You have still failed to do so. You haven't come up with any studies. Mtrycrafts and Richard Greene have at least looked for them.
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- Ah, I see, a "tu quoque" argument. - Pat D 14:03:42 10/15/10 (33)
- Wrong again - E-Stat 14:31:15 10/15/10 (29)
- Since you resist the point below, let's analyze. - Pat D 19:36:56 10/16/10 (11)
- I'm not going to dissect this next journey into confusion - E-Stat 06:37:05 10/17/10 (6)
- You keep changing your ground. - Pat D 05:03:15 10/18/10 (5)
- You need to read again what I said - E-Stat 06:18:56 10/18/10 (4)
- Changing your ground again. - Pat D 07:22:14 10/18/10 (3)
- Evidence? - Tony Lauck 07:50:25 10/18/10 (0)
- Your memory fails you again - E-Stat 07:33:22 10/18/10 (1)
- RE: Your memory fails you again - Pat D 10:23:28 10/19/10 (0)
- Please fix your references. - Tony Lauck 21:13:41 10/16/10 (3)
- The URL works for me. - Pat D 04:53:10 10/18/10 (1)
- Thank you. - Tony Lauck 06:46:09 10/18/10 (0)
- There is no reference to BassNut's test - E-Stat 06:31:11 10/17/10 (0)
- So how does this show cables sound different? (nt) - Pat D 15:20:44 10/15/10 (16)
- It doesn't - E-Stat 15:39:35 10/15/10 (15)
- I know. - Pat D 18:10:36 10/15/10 (14)
- RE: I know. - josh358 14:38:45 10/16/10 (4)
- RE: I know. - Pat D 19:52:33 10/16/10 (3)
- RE: I know. - josh358 20:27:09 10/16/10 (2)
- RE: I know. - Pat D 05:16:33 10/18/10 (1)
- RE: I know. - josh358 09:11:02 10/19/10 (0)
- You know what? - E-Stat 20:40:37 10/15/10 (8)
- It would help if you actually read that old thread at AR. - Pat D 19:44:30 10/16/10 (7)
- That is exactly what I would say to you! - E-Stat 06:29:13 10/17/10 (6)
- Why do persist in propagating falsehoods? - Pat D 04:44:15 10/18/10 (0)
- You're not getting it! - kerr 08:21:59 10/17/10 (4)
- RE: You're not getting it! - Pat D 05:21:16 10/18/10 (1)
- RE: You're not getting it! - kerr 09:41:53 10/18/10 (0)
- Such just boggles the mind -nt - E-Stat 09:00:16 10/17/10 (1)
- I don't think that's true - kerr 09:48:30 10/17/10 (0)
- Geez.... When people say that the only thing that's worse ... - carcass93 14:19:03 10/15/10 (2)
- As usual, you have nothing to add beyond name calling. - Pat D 14:25:19 10/15/10 (1)
- You, with each of your posts, just YEARN to be called names. - carcass93 14:30:36 10/15/10 (0)