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In Reply to: It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard posted by Analog Scott on November 19, 2016 at 13:37:48:
The main problem with blind tests is this: negative results mean nothing. You cannot generalize and say this device doesn't work. In that regard blind test is jus lie any test..
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - Jay Buridan 14:46:05 11/07/16 (81)
- Complete nonsense - Analog Scott 13:31:31 11/19/16 (7)
- So, DBT audio judgement is more reliable than sighted? - Jay Buridan 19:38:40 11/19/16 (6)
- Heraclitus didn't have powerful statistical analytics. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 14:01:57 11/20/16 (0)
- RE: So, DBT audio judgement is more reliable than sighted? - Analog Scott 20:13:20 11/19/16 (4)
- RE: So, DBT audio judgement is more reliable than sighted? - Inmate51 08:47:31 01/06/17 (1)
- "The man acknowledges climate change" really? - Analog Scott 06:18:16 01/21/17 (0)
- RE: So, DBT audio judgement is more reliable than sighted? - John Atkinson 15:21:57 11/26/16 (1)
- RE: So, DBT audio judgement is more reliable than sighted? - Analog Scott 18:05:18 11/26/16 (0)
- RE: Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - Pat D 19:17:55 11/17/16 (1)
- Rather than claiming, I'm asking a question - Jay Buridan 10:19:35 11/18/16 (0)
- RE: Blind LISTENING is where it is at... earplugs and muffs. plus humming the whole time.. - Smelly_Socks 19:16:00 11/17/16 (1)
- My friend, you should found an audio journal :) - Jay Buridan 10:29:47 11/18/16 (0)
- Blind dogs don't bark at shadows - Jay Buridan 11:03:30 11/12/16 (0)
- Hifitommy... - kerr 07:11:46 11/11/16 (27)
- Dan, it was audioreview.com - hifitommy 13:38:50 11/13/16 (17)
- RE: Dan, it was audioreview.com - kerr 14:10:44 11/14/16 (16)
- Now - E-Stat 15:06:00 11/14/16 (15)
- RE: Now - kerr 04:09:49 11/15/16 (14)
- H2 - hifitommy 08:52:03 11/17/16 (4)
- H2. Home for a small band of idiots posing as weekend scientists - Analog Scott 14:05:06 11/19/16 (1)
- H2. Home for a small band of idiots - hifitommy 21:52:34 11/19/16 (0)
- I'm just happy... - kerr 12:06:32 11/17/16 (1)
- You are frequently reminded - E-Stat 09:49:30 11/18/16 (0)
- Oh, my - E-Stat 06:31:01 11/15/16 (8)
- Gotta love objectivist on objectivist forum violence - Analog Scott 14:08:14 11/19/16 (0)
- LMAO!!!!! - kerr 12:19:45 11/15/16 (6)
- Isn't that link a gem? - E-Stat 13:56:25 11/15/16 (5)
- A quitessential example of the disconnect between objectivists and their pet peeve... - Analog Scott 14:15:52 11/19/16 (0)
- RE: Isn't that link a gem? - SpotcheckBilly12345 07:03:59 11/16/16 (1)
- RE: Isn't that link a gem? - kerr 13:21:28 11/16/16 (0)
- This militant mediocrist-on-militant mediocrist violence must stop!!! (nt) - kerr 14:37:32 11/15/16 (1)
- LOL!!! -nt - E-Stat 15:46:39 11/15/16 (0)
- My point is that blind and sighted testing are unreliable in different ways - Jay Buridan 18:18:05 11/11/16 (8)
- RE: My point is that blind and sighted testing are unreliable in different ways - kerr 13:56:33 11/14/16 (0)
- blind and sighted - hifitommy 13:34:07 11/13/16 (0)
- RE: My point is that blind and sighted testing are unreliable in different ways - hahax@verizon.net 19:01:56 11/11/16 (5)
- RE: My point is that blind and sighted testing are unreliable in different ways - andy_c 23:36:52 11/24/16 (0)
- I like the speakers that Toole designed for Infinity - Jay Buridan 11:00:13 11/12/16 (3)
- Toole didn't design any Infinity speakers, or any Harman speakers for that matter (nt) - andy_c 23:56:28 11/24/16 (1)
- You're right. Designer was Allan Devantier - Jay Buridan 04:58:44 11/25/16 (0)
- holding the bag (their bags)... Ouch! - hifitommy 13:35:25 11/13/16 (0)
- I tried double blind testing but - Pjay 11:50:50 11/10/16 (1)
- Ouch! - Jay Buridan 17:59:14 11/11/16 (0)
- Ironically, the medical "gold standard" shares little in common with audio trials - E-Stat 06:59:33 11/08/16 (5)
- It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard - Analog Scott 13:37:48 11/19/16 (4)
- RE: It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard - geoffkait 17:38:14 11/24/16 (1)
- RE: It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard - Analog Scott 17:25:45 11/25/16 (0)
- So, hi-fi is a science? - Jay Buridan 19:41:27 11/19/16 (1)
- neither. It's marketing slogan - Analog Scott 20:25:52 11/19/16 (0)
- Blind testing, like any testing, is not foolproof. Nt - geoffkait 03:24:11 11/08/16 (13)
- RE: Blind testing, like any testing, is not foolproof. Nt - hahax@verizon.net 05:22:46 11/08/16 (12)
- RE: Blind testing, like any testing, is not foolproof. Nt - geoffkait 05:27:54 11/08/16 (11)
- RE: Blind testing, like any testing, is not foolproof. Nt - hahax@verizon.net 12:14:43 11/08/16 (10)
- Blind testing is a hypothesis test and has the same mathematical rules - Timbo in Oz 19:02:17 11/08/16 (9)
- RE: Blind testing is a hypothesis test and has the same mathematical rules - geoffkait 05:41:44 11/09/16 (8)
- Go jump in the lake, Geoff. - Timbo in Oz 00:29:11 11/10/16 (7)
- Is that your best argument? - geoffkait 04:22:13 11/10/16 (6)
- It wasn't an argument it was a suggestion - Analog Scott 14:19:20 11/19/16 (5)
- RE: It wasn't an argument it was a suggestion - geoffkait 16:58:45 11/23/16 (3)
- RE: It wasn't an argument it was a suggestion - Analog Scott 14:03:38 11/24/16 (2)
- RE: It wasn't an argument it was a suggestion - geoffkait 03:57:57 11/25/16 (1)
- Is that your best argument? - Analog Scott 10:04:32 11/25/16 (0)
- you got it in one, and most music isn't made up of sustained notes, - Timbo in Oz 22:25:13 11/19/16 (0)
- I'm curious - 4everyoung 02:43:44 11/08/16 (2)
- My wishes are modest - DAP 07:21:30 11/12/16 (1)
- RE: My wishes are modest - Pat D 06:01:11 11/14/16 (0)
- RE: Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - MackRetep 21:31:42 11/07/16 (1)
- RE: Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - davidandcandy@gmail.com 17:36:07 11/08/16 (0)
- RE: Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - hahax@verizon.net 19:59:34 11/07/16 (5)
- Please elaborate on circular reasoning - Jay Buridan 21:17:33 11/07/16 (4)
- I know it's real because I hear it. I know I hear it because it's real - Analog Scott 13:49:05 11/19/16 (0)
- RE: Please elaborate on circular reasoning - hahax@verizon.net 05:21:11 11/08/16 (2)
- I know what circular reasoning is - Jay Buridan 19:23:31 11/19/16 (0)
- Found it - Jay Buridan 19:18:28 11/19/16 (0)
- Long term listening is the only correct evaluation! - RealStereo 19:28:25 11/07/16 (5)
- nah.... - Analog Scott 13:44:19 11/19/16 (2)
- It takes time to KNOW you will be happy! nt - RealStereo 17:57:04 11/21/16 (1)
- Not everyone - Analog Scott 02:07:43 11/22/16 (0)
- +1 (nt) - mkuller 13:04:43 11/13/16 (0)
- Roger that! - Jay Buridan 21:21:28 11/07/16 (0)
- RE: Blind testing assumes that one steps in the same river twice - oldmkvi 19:24:21 11/07/16 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard - geoffkait 17:38:14 11/24/16 (1)
- RE: It isn't just the "nedical gold standard. It's the scientific gold standard - Analog Scott 17:25:45 11/25/16 (0)