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In Reply to: Why are there $50K tube amps, $100,000 speakers? $1 million dollar cars? posted by kuribo on March 5, 2015 at 15:52:13:
Are you asking me to prove that the Theta is not the best sounding amp in the world for $12,000? You're right I have no proof that it's not, just like you have no proof that it is.
I do know that there are a number of outstanding 'traditional' amps that have stood the test of time so there's no need to risk $12,000 on a technology that's still trying to 'get there'. Yup, that's just my opinion. But if it takes $9,000 - $12,000 get to where we've already been sonically with existing technology.... why bother?
I'm just voicing my opinion. The Theta monoblocks at $12,000 might be just the bargain you've been waiting for. I'm not willing to spend anywhere near that kind of coin for a couple OEM Class D modules.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Class warfare over.... - kuribo 05:50:04 03/03/15 (203)
- well ... - TBone 14:32:00 03/09/15 (16)
- RE: well ... - morricab 02:33:36 03/10/15 (15)
- RE: well ... - TBone 04:07:44 03/10/15 (14)
- Nevermind, I checked your profile - morricab 03:02:48 03/11/15 (5)
- RE: Nevermind, I checked your profile - A.Wayne 15:01:07 03/11/15 (4)
- RE: Nevermind, I checked your profile - TBone 17:08:34 03/11/15 (2)
- RE: Nevermind, I checked your profile - morricab 02:39:53 03/12/15 (1)
- RE: Nevermind, I checked your profile - jasonpatrickbrowne 11:17:48 11/12/15 (0)
- RE: Nevermind, I checked your profile - morricab 15:35:00 03/11/15 (0)
- Maybe I missed something - morricab 02:59:23 03/11/15 (0)
- Obviously he knows nothing about high quality audio if he chose a, gasp, class D amp for his latest product! - kuribo 15:31:06 03/10/15 (6)
- RE: Obviously he knows nothing about high quality audio if he chose a, gasp, class D amp for his latest product! - morricab 03:04:44 03/11/15 (5)
- certainly not "everything" ... - TBone 07:02:30 03/11/15 (1)
- RE: certainly not "everything" ... - morricab 15:37:52 03/11/15 (0)
- Get help class d stalker....NT - kuribo 06:26:57 03/11/15 (2)
- please ... - TBone 07:13:49 03/11/15 (1)
- Well, our amp "oracle" is clearly suffering from emotional issues...nt - kuribo 12:47:35 03/11/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - RGA 18:13:09 03/06/15 (0)
- Has anyone here actually heard this thing ... - Dave Pogue 08:14:23 03/05/15 (3)
- At $12,000 for Class D I'm sure a lot of people have opinions..... - AbeCollins 12:05:00 03/05/15 (2)
- RE: At $12,000 for Class D I'm sure a lot of people have opinions..... - pictureguy 00:49:26 11/16/15 (0)
- At least it's a high powered amp, not an Ethernet cable. nt - Tony Lauck 11:43:35 03/08/15 (0)
- Game ON: - pictureguy 23:19:01 03/04/15 (0)
- Guess that since it's a stretch to afford $1200 for a new amp, - Dman 06:01:00 03/04/15 (0)
- I wonder if inside the Theta casework is a cheap Phillips amp inside - TheBrewmaster 20:42:46 03/03/15 (5)
- I second the nomination- time to take off the shirt and see if there really are muscles under there! nt - Dman 05:57:46 03/04/15 (4)
- Yeah, I wonder how many people will get this - nt - TheBrewmaster 08:55:08 03/04/15 (3)
- If AA had a like button, I'd be using right about now! LOL nt - Dman 14:00:34 03/04/15 (2)
- RE: If AA had a like button, I'd be using right about now! LOL nt - longtimequadowner 14:42:42 03/04/15 (1)
- A "lot of work"? - rlw 08:43:34 03/06/15 (0)
- Another worthless review! - Ric Schultz 19:28:54 03/03/15 (2)
- And yet... - E-Stat 06:39:35 03/04/15 (0)
- RE: Another worthless review! - pictureguy 20:21:57 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - longtimequadowner 17:47:55 03/03/15 (10)
- According to your profile here on AA... - AbeCollins 09:00:15 03/04/15 (7)
- The potential to approach the theoreticaly... - Ugly 23:13:56 03/06/15 (0)
- Every amp? No. Some Amps? Yes. This Amp? Don't know. - longtimequadowner 09:29:07 03/04/15 (5)
- RE: Every amp? No. Some Amps? Yes. This Amp? Don't know. - A.Wayne 09:48:51 03/04/15 (4)
- RE: Every amp? No. Some Amps? Yes. This Amp? Don't know. - longtimequadowner 10:47:16 03/04/15 (3)
- You can get close(ish). - b.l.zeebub 11:22:52 03/04/15 (2)
- That is exactly what I wanted to know! - longtimequadowner 12:04:08 03/04/15 (1)
- RE: That is exactly what I wanted to know! - b.l.zeebub 15:16:33 03/04/15 (0)
- Nice to see at least someone "gets it"....finally some rationale, intelligent comments...nt - kuribo 17:53:39 03/03/15 (1)
- I learned how to read in elementary school, been using it ever since (nt) - longtimequadowner 18:00:49 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - morricab 14:53:28 03/03/15 (2)
- Maybe you should reread the review as it seems you missed a lot... - kuribo 15:04:32 03/03/15 (1)
- RE: Maybe you should reread the review as it seems you missed a lot... - morricab 02:12:14 03/04/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - SgreenP@MSN.com 13:52:30 03/03/15 (19)
- Levinson/Dynaudio - Awe-d-o-file 06:47:02 03/04/15 (0)
- He said it was the best he has heard in his system- the Levinson was just one comp. He also mentions Pass...nt - kuribo 14:04:06 03/03/15 (17)
- Sorry, but that statement is not supported by fact - E-Stat 14:42:58 03/03/15 (16)
- It's simple logic.... - kuribo 14:49:01 03/03/15 (15)
- It would be simple logic IF... - E-Stat 15:31:13 03/03/15 (14)
- Try again... - kuribo 15:38:05 03/03/15 (13)
- Sure there is - E-Stat 15:43:49 03/03/15 (12)
- RE: Sure there is - A.Wayne 16:02:54 03/03/15 (10)
- Read the text - E-Stat 16:17:22 03/03/15 (8)
- You listen to square waves a lot? I don't. - kuribo 16:47:00 03/03/15 (7)
- RE: You listen to square waves a lot? I don't. - pictureguy 23:13:54 03/08/15 (0)
- How many brain dead listeners... - morricab 02:24:28 03/04/15 (5)
- Linear solid state and switching - M-dB 04:24:58 03/06/15 (1)
- RE: Linear solid state and switching - morricab 08:09:54 03/09/15 (0)
- Let's see.... - kuribo 05:30:18 03/04/15 (2)
- RE: Let's see.... - morricab 05:40:16 03/04/15 (1)
- You are the one focusing on the measurements... - kuribo 05:56:15 03/04/15 (0)
- In a nutshell, JA said "The measured performance of Theta was superb"...nt - kuribo 16:06:41 03/03/15 (0)
- Um, not quite... - kuribo 15:57:31 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - Inmate51 11:26:19 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - AbeCollins 10:11:24 03/03/15 (121)
- You're being silly - Feanor 06:28:08 03/04/15 (38)
- RE: You're being silly - AbeCollins 09:09:20 03/04/15 (37)
- Class D is about that for a start - Feanor 16:10:04 03/04/15 (0)
- Do some research before assuming it's just a module in a box...nt - kuribo 13:54:20 03/04/15 (31)
- Its the same module others use, plus a linear power supply - AbeCollins 15:58:35 03/04/15 (30)
- RE: Its the same module others use, plus a linear power supply - A.Wayne 08:04:06 03/06/15 (0)
- Well, according to Theta... - kuribo 16:17:09 03/04/15 (28)
- RE: Well, according to Theta... - AbeCollins 18:52:47 03/04/15 (27)
- It means there may be more to it than what you have speculated. - kuribo 05:24:09 03/05/15 (26)
- Why don't you tell us since you seem to know Theta / Class D - AbeCollins 06:51:27 03/05/15 (25)
- Regardless of class... - kuribo 07:13:28 03/05/15 (24)
- My final thoughts on the matter.... - AbeCollins 09:42:02 03/05/15 (23)
- Again, where is your proof? - kuribo 13:28:22 03/05/15 (7)
- Proof of what? That the Theta uses the Hypex NCore NC1200 module? - AbeCollins 14:15:15 03/05/15 (6)
- Do they just throw the stock module in a box or did they modify it? - kuribo 14:23:42 03/05/15 (5)
- Oh here we go with the "we modified it" or "collaborated with" B.S. - AbeCollins 15:17:33 03/05/15 (4)
- Why are there $50K tube amps, $100,000 speakers? $1 million dollar cars? - kuribo 15:52:13 03/05/15 (3)
- Of course the market decides and I'm bowing out of this high-end Class D market - AbeCollins 16:11:58 03/05/15 (2)
- posturing ... - TBone 04:54:52 03/10/15 (0)
- Agreed - Jack G 05:31:36 03/06/15 (0)
- RE: My final thoughts on the matter.... - Inmate51 12:38:09 03/05/15 (6)
- RE: My final thoughts on the matter.... - AbeCollins 14:22:24 03/05/15 (5)
- I'm sure you also discovered - E-Stat 14:42:49 03/05/15 (4)
- RE: I'm sure you also discovered - AbeCollins 15:23:36 03/05/15 (3)
- Well, er - E-Stat 15:27:29 03/05/15 (2)
- RE: Well, er - AbeCollins 15:28:15 03/05/15 (1)
- RE: Well, er - A.Wayne 15:49:58 03/05/15 (0)
- At least - E-Stat 11:12:27 03/05/15 (6)
- You have proof of that or is it just more speculation? nt - kuribo 13:35:24 03/05/15 (3)
- My, my - E-Stat 14:01:38 03/05/15 (2)
- Dog at the vet? nt - kuribo 14:25:47 03/05/15 (1)
- RE: Dog at the vet? nt / ? [n.t.a.] - wangmr 06:16:14 03/08/15 (0)
- Theta did the same dirty trick - morricab 12:48:49 03/05/15 (1)
- Once caught with your pants down... - E-Stat 14:02:41 03/05/15 (0)
- RE: My final thoughts on the matter.... - TheBrewmaster 10:58:23 03/05/15 (0)
- RE: You're being silly - morricab 12:27:13 03/04/15 (3)
- RE: Worth 12K - A.Wayne 14:02:47 03/04/15 (2)
- RE: Worth 12K - Disbeliever 01:12:02 11/16/15 (0)
- RE: Worth 12K - morricab 12:52:40 03/05/15 (0)
- Yep - E-Stat 14:31:01 03/03/15 (0)
- I think you missed his point. He didn't say it was as good, he said it was better...nt - kuribo 14:19:37 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: "there is no good reason for going Class D" - rick_m 10:43:03 03/03/15 (1)
- Exactly - nt - AbeCollins 12:02:29 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - b.l.zeebub 10:39:34 03/03/15 (77)
- Wrong, it's not the same....So many opinions, so few real facts....nt - kuribo 13:35:55 03/03/15 (0)
- Actually - E-Stat 11:18:08 03/03/15 (75)
- RE: Actually - AbeCollins 12:03:24 03/03/15 (74)
- Our resident - E-Stat 12:16:25 03/03/15 (72)
- Nice red herring.....nt - kuribo 13:38:02 03/03/15 (71)
- Well - E-Stat 13:51:07 03/03/15 (70)
- Overload what input section? You listen to ultrasonic noise? nice try...nt - kuribo 14:00:58 03/03/15 (69)
- ANY input section - E-Stat 14:22:55 03/03/15 (68)
- Really? Your amp feeds an input section? Mine is wired directly to my speakers... - kuribo 14:27:41 03/03/15 (67)
- RE: Really? Your amp feeds an input section? Mine is wired directly to my speakers... - morricab 14:45:20 03/03/15 (30)
- Another person without any knowledge of class d amp testing... - kuribo 14:54:22 03/03/15 (29)
- RE: Another person without any knowledge of class d amp testing... - morricab 14:57:24 03/03/15 (28)
- Hint: not an issue with ncore....nt - kuribo 15:01:20 03/03/15 (27)
- RE: Hint: not an issue with ncore....nt - morricab 02:29:48 03/04/15 (26)
- No, you are simply ignorant of class d testing protocols...nt - kuribo 05:32:17 03/04/15 (0)
- RE: Hint: not an issue with ncore....nt - A.Wayne 04:00:05 03/04/15 (24)
- RE: Hint: not an issue with ncore....nt - morricab 06:14:20 03/04/15 (23)
- RE: Hint: Morri, it's a Toooby - A.Wayne 08:24:13 03/04/15 (22)
- RE: Hint: Morri, it's a Toooby - morricab 12:18:25 03/04/15 (21)
- RE: Hint: Morri, it's a Toooby - A.Wayne 13:38:24 03/04/15 (20)
- RE: Hint: Morri, it's a Toooby - morricab 01:52:52 03/05/15 (19)
- RE: Hint: Morri, it's a Toooby - A.Wayne 13:16:23 03/05/15 (1)
- And yet, I don't listen loud... - morricab 01:24:29 03/06/15 (0)
- I prefer an amp with enough power to not have to worry about clipping behavior and increased distortion....nt - kuribo 05:28:41 03/05/15 (16)
- If the 1st watt doesn't sound good...who cares about the rest!! - morricab 12:55:13 03/05/15 (15)
- Can't beat the performance of ncore under a few watts...nt - kuribo 13:32:14 03/05/15 (14)
- Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - morricab 01:20:47 03/06/15 (13)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - E-Stat 06:34:45 03/06/15 (5)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - A.Wayne 07:52:52 03/06/15 (4)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - E-Stat 10:01:54 03/06/15 (3)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - A.Wayne 10:43:28 03/06/15 (2)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - morricab 08:16:10 03/09/15 (0)
- RE: Who says?? More baseless speculation on your part - E-Stat 11:38:32 03/06/15 (0)
- Look at the specs and show me something that performs better. - kuribo 05:12:15 03/06/15 (6)
- Again with the specs...wasn't it you above that told me that it was I... - morricab 12:08:07 03/07/15 (5)
- Your subjective preferences are neither measurable nor applicable to others... - kuribo 12:36:05 03/07/15 (4)
- Poor Kuribo... - morricab 09:57:02 03/08/15 (3)
- Poor me? You just can't stay out a class d thread...Hope you get some help with those personal issues.....nt - kuribo 12:57:31 03/08/15 (2)
- It's obvious, you would have been so sad if I had stayed out...couldn't disappoint you. - morricab 02:15:20 03/09/15 (1)
- Get help stalker....nt - kuribo 05:42:31 03/09/15 (0)
- EMI/RFI knows no direction - E-Stat 14:34:02 03/03/15 (35)
- Do you know what the EMI specs are for this amp? I didn't think so....nt - kuribo 14:36:47 03/03/15 (34)
- Apparently, more than enough - E-Stat 14:46:33 03/03/15 (33)
- Like I said, you are igonorant of class d amp testing... - kuribo 14:52:14 03/03/15 (32)
- I read the entire text - E-Stat 15:23:43 03/03/15 (31)
- RE: If nothing else....... - A.Wayne 15:33:06 03/03/15 (0)
- Really? Maybe you misundertood these comments: - kuribo 15:31:53 03/03/15 (29)
- Hint: - E-Stat 15:37:10 03/03/15 (28)
- Exact quote...Get over it.... - kuribo 16:02:02 03/03/15 (27)
- I'm delighted you understand your first excerpt was not a quote - E-Stat 16:28:15 03/03/15 (26)
- Who said anything about purchasing based on one review? - kuribo 16:41:29 03/03/15 (25)
- RE: Who said anything about purchasing based on one review? - morricab 12:21:39 03/04/15 (6)
- And... - E-Stat 11:18:15 03/05/15 (0)
- It's only provocative if you're a prejudiced snob with an inflated sense of self-importance... - kuribo 13:52:02 03/04/15 (4)
- RE: It's only provocative if you're a prejudiced snob with an inflated sense of self-importance... - morricab 13:02:19 03/05/15 (3)
- And yet you just can't stay away....nothing better to do? nt - kuribo 13:33:56 03/05/15 (2)
- And yet you chose to post a provocative Class D love fest - morricab 01:27:22 03/06/15 (1)
- It's a hobby. If you are "provoked" by a post highlighting a positive review you have serious issues...nt... - kuribo 05:16:08 03/06/15 (0)
- I pointed out your overt lies -nt - E-Stat 16:43:36 03/03/15 (17)
- And I pointed out your biased, ignorant poo-pooing. nt - kuribo 16:49:25 03/03/15 (16)
- I'll say this - E-Stat 16:56:20 03/03/15 (15)
- RE: I'll say this - Ugly 22:44:24 03/06/15 (13)
- Flea powered tubes? - E-Stat 06:44:45 03/07/15 (2)
- RE: Flea powered tubes? - A.Wayne 07:02:01 03/07/15 (1)
- Nah - E-Stat 07:15:26 03/07/15 (0)
- And tv's, cell phones, etc. are nearly all class d now- clearly the stock comment was simply ignorant...nt - kuribo 05:51:47 03/07/15 (9)
- THose are some truly ringing endorsements for Class D sound quality - morricab 12:11:45 03/07/15 (8)
- It is where they make perfect sense - E-Stat 13:51:55 03/07/15 (0)
- Well, they replaced tubes to as bad as they may be, they must be better than tubes....nt - kuribo 12:40:37 03/07/15 (6)
- Uh, yeah, that must be it... - morricab 10:32:11 03/08/15 (5)
- the class d stalker: see anyone posting in every tube thread about their perceived shortcomings of tubes? - kuribo 15:07:43 03/08/15 (4)
- I don't post in every Class D thread... - morricab 02:22:49 03/09/15 (3)
- get help stalker...nt - kuribo 05:44:08 03/09/15 (2)
- Let's see who starts provacative threads about Class D - morricab 08:23:00 03/09/15 (1)
- Get help stalker....nt - kuribo 13:39:55 03/09/15 (0)
- Let me guess, bored with kicking the dog, you come here to start arguments...Feel better yet? - kuribo 17:08:48 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Actually - b.l.zeebub 12:09:19 03/03/15 (0)
- LOL - Bromo33333 09:59:20 03/03/15 (0)
- Not surprising for someone - E-Stat 08:10:32 03/03/15 (1)
- Exactly... - mkuller 12:01:12 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - b.l.zeebub 07:10:32 03/03/15 (5)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - airtime 07:19:58 03/03/15 (1)
- RE: Class warfare over.... - b.l.zeebub 08:45:34 03/03/15 (0)
- I take it they are out of your price range....nt - kuribo 07:12:46 03/03/15 (2)
- RE: I take it they are out of your price range....nt - b.l.zeebub 08:53:33 03/03/15 (1)
- Wrong, it's not the same as what is in the NAD.....nt - kuribo 14:06:15 03/03/15 (0)
- Well that's it then - airtime 06:28:36 03/03/15 (3)
- You haven't heard it, yet you Know it's No Good! - oldmkvi 09:19:09 03/03/15 (0)
- RE: Well that's it then - Palustris 08:35:30 03/03/15 (0)
- Interesting interpretation....nt - kuribo 06:53:57 03/03/15 (0)
Follow Ups
- Of course the market decides and I'm bowing out of this high-end Class D market - AbeCollins 16:11:58 03/05/15 (2)
- posturing ... - TBone 04:54:52 03/10/15 (0)
- Agreed - Jack G 05:31:36 03/06/15 (0)