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Holy crap batman!
I put the Rogue Cronus Magnum integrated amp back in my system today just for grins.... running KT120 power tubes of course. I spent some critical listening time comparing it against my Ampzilla 2000 2nd Edition monoblocks and Pass Labs XP-10 linestage. All I can say is wow, that little Rogue is one incredible bargain.
Is the Rogue better than my separates? No but are my separates $10,000 better than the Rogue? Hell no! I could easily enjoy the Rogue forever.
While it doesn't have quite the detail or slam as the separates, or the top end extension, the Rogue is a bit warmer and richer sounding and still very dynamic and clean. It's also a bit more robust in the lower mids.
It's one of things where you can swap back and forth and hear differences but is one setup truly that much better than the other? Hardly.
I'd take the little Rogue over my previous Bryston monoblock pair any day. While the Rogue can't quite match my current separates, if I had to I could easily go back to the Rogue full time and be completely satisfied.
How would the audio rags write it up? You've heard it before..... "Hits above it's weight class, acquits itself nicely, didn't shame itself, didn't shit it's pants, didn't wet the carpet, etc. etc." Whatever.
I am still incredibly impressed with the Rogue Cronus Magnum integrated.
It's freezing cold outside. May as well play some music
Comparing Rogue Cronus Magnum tube integrated vs Ampzilla 2000 2nd Edition monoblocks and Pass Labs XP-10 linestage
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Topic - $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - AbeCollins 13:06:43 12/07/13 (93)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - SgreenP@MSN.com 09:35:05 09/02/14 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - jeagle 18:47:16 08/21/14 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - mjcmt 05:34:42 12/21/13 (0)
- I had a similar "Aha" moment.... - Justlisten2 21:21:21 12/15/13 (0)
- I'm Not Surprised....... - geezerrocket 06:53:18 12/13/13 (1)
- RE: I'm Not Surprised....... - abs1 08:00:05 12/13/13 (0)
- Similar experience - mikepittarelli 14:42:25 12/10/13 (31)
- RE: Similar experience - Freo-1 13:49:27 12/19/13 (0)
- lots of people interested in that Yamaha amp - mbnx01 12:00:30 12/12/13 (0)
- RE: Similar experience - AbeCollins 19:17:40 12/10/13 (28)
- RE: Similar experience - Felix W 10:30:51 08/27/14 (0)
- Hmmm - morricab 01:34:14 12/12/13 (19)
- Low opinion of Pass amps? - Feanor 04:49:49 12/12/13 (18)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - morricab 13:37:38 12/15/13 (14)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - TheBrewmaster 23:36:49 08/21/14 (1)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - fantja 08:11:47 08/22/14 (0)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - Ozzie 17:05:06 12/16/13 (1)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - morricab 12:40:37 12/18/13 (0)
- I would love to try, say, a Aleph 0 - Feanor 05:28:30 12/16/13 (9)
- RE: I would love to try, say, a Aleph 0 - morricab 12:43:49 12/18/13 (7)
- That's right, and the Forte 5 goes for $400 or so - Feanor 19:12:38 12/18/13 (6)
- RE: That's right, and the Forte 5 goes for $400 or so - morricab 01:35:12 12/20/13 (3)
- Exactly my point - Feanor 17:53:09 12/20/13 (1)
- RE: Exactly my point - fantja 04:44:05 12/21/13 (0)
- The Forte is better sounding amp..... - Freo-1 15:00:07 12/20/13 (0)
- RE: That's right, and the Forte 5 goes for $400 or so - abs1 09:47:21 12/19/13 (1)
- Indeed! (nt) - Feanor 11:03:38 12/19/13 (0)
- Forté 4a was designed by Michael Bladelius when he was at Threshold and Forté - willkayakforfood 21:36:13 12/16/13 (0)
- RE: Low opinion of Pass amps? - AbeCollins 06:46:56 12/12/13 (2)
- Abe, you mention the lack of dynamics in case of the INT-150 - Feanor 10:37:31 12/13/13 (1)
- RE: Abe, you mention the lack of dynamics in case of the INT-150 - AbeCollins 20:30:53 12/13/13 (0)
- RE: Similar experience - northernquad 17:36:16 12/11/13 (0)
- RE: Similar experience - fantja 05:07:05 12/11/13 (5)
- RE: Similar experience - AbeCollins 11:23:38 12/11/13 (4)
- RE: Similar experience - fantja 13:23:49 12/11/13 (3)
- RE: Similar experience - morricab 01:39:42 12/12/13 (0)
- RE: Similar experience - AbeCollins 17:23:01 12/11/13 (1)
- RE: Similar experience - fantja 04:28:14 12/13/13 (0)
- Abe, have you listened again to your friend's Merrills? - jbrrp1 05:48:23 12/10/13 (6)
- I listened to his Acoustic Imagery Atsah just briefly... - AbeCollins 08:16:45 12/10/13 (5)
- Thanks for the update. - jbrrp1 11:59:17 12/10/13 (4)
- RE: Thanks for the update. - AbeCollins 12:24:03 12/10/13 (3)
- RE: Thanks for the update. - jbrrp1 14:20:06 12/10/13 (2)
- RE: Thanks for the update. - morricab 01:24:11 12/12/13 (0)
- RE: Thanks for the update. - AbeCollins 19:18:40 12/10/13 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - Ian Mackenzie 05:52:57 12/09/13 (3)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - AbeCollins 08:32:16 12/09/13 (2)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - Ian Mackenzie 08:44:33 12/09/13 (1)
- FWIW...... - Paul Tobin 21:49:45 12/13/13 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - fantja 04:45:16 12/09/13 (2)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - AbeCollins 08:34:26 12/09/13 (1)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - fantja 09:12:04 12/09/13 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - morricab 05:19:02 12/08/13 (6)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - AbeCollins 08:16:40 12/09/13 (1)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - morricab 08:06:39 12/10/13 (0)
- " dual mono with over 1.000.000uF of capacity/per chanel " - beppe61 23:54:04 12/08/13 (3)
- RE: " dual mono with over 1.000.000uF of capacity/per chanel " - morricab 00:08:13 12/09/13 (2)
- RE: " dual mono with over 1.000.000uF of capacity/per chanel " - beppe61 00:55:12 12/09/13 (1)
- RE: " dual mono with over 1.000.000uF of capacity/per chanel " - morricab 12:16:35 12/09/13 (0)
- RE: $2000 integrated vs $12,000 separates........ - fantja 04:30:00 12/08/13 (0)
- Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - viridian 20:21:36 12/07/13 (27)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - sudz1234@yahoo.com 10:38:24 09/01/14 (4)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - The Dill 17:38:00 09/01/14 (3)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - sudz1234@yahoo.com 18:50:46 09/01/14 (2)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - The Dill 18:56:27 09/01/14 (1)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - Nunki 06:06:54 09/02/14 (0)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - twitch54 19:10:39 12/28/13 (0)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - spamblam@hotmail.com 11:22:15 12/12/13 (1)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - AbeCollins 14:42:35 12/14/13 (0)
- Hey, man...you succeed in coming across as a.... - Ian Mackenzie 05:47:59 12/09/13 (1)
- Disagree. - Bill Musgrave 19:31:38 12/11/13 (0)
- No. It's not simply tube vs solid-state.... - AbeCollins 20:39:03 12/07/13 (9)
- So putting something in capital letters makes it true? Got it now..... - viridian 20:46:34 12/07/13 (8)
- You should read your own posts and.... - AbeCollins 21:18:57 12/07/13 (7)
- What happened to not wasteing any more time? nt - viridian 21:22:26 12/07/13 (6)
- I like the Cronus - Trouser Trout 01:27:12 12/08/13 (5)
- RE: I like the Cronus - mbnx01 09:30:33 12/08/13 (3)
- RE: I like the Cronus - Trouser Trout 10:19:34 12/08/13 (2)
- so you haven't heard them - mbnx01 15:30:57 12/08/13 (1)
- RE: so you haven't heard them - Trouser Trout 15:52:37 12/08/13 (0)
- RE: I like the Cronus - fantja 04:32:40 12/08/13 (0)
- RE: Or is it tube vs. solid state, or just more genuflecting over Rogue gear?... - mbnx01 20:24:27 12/07/13 (6)
- Try the latest Stereophile Vol 36#12, Dec. 2013..... - viridian 20:30:56 12/07/13 (5)
- Did someone piss in your beer? - AbeCollins 20:45:32 12/07/13 (4)
- Your ad hominem argument side steps the point..... - viridian 20:50:25 12/07/13 (3)
- You're welcome to your different view point.... - AbeCollins 21:09:58 12/07/13 (2)
- I, at least, had the courtesy to answer your questions. Nightey night. nt - viridian 21:13:30 12/07/13 (1)
- RE:courtesy doesn't equal integrity... - wangmr 05:13:32 12/09/13 (0)
- something I'd love to hear........ - mbnx01 15:31:24 12/07/13 (0)
- I'm using my Cronus now for my desk setup - geoff 14:58:10 12/07/13 (0)
- I've been saying for years........ - mbnx01 14:26:34 12/07/13 (0)
- Diminishing returns - Beetlemania 13:36:15 12/07/13 (1)
- The Ayre AX-7e is a great integrated! - Bromo33333 14:34:03 12/07/13 (0)