Rare ebay sighting

It's been there quite a while...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 11:09:56
vinyl1 Audiophile Posts: 3948 Joined: October 3, 2001	....and he's not getting any nibbles. I doubt if eBay is the appropriate marketplace for this sort of item. He did manage to unload a pair of Sonus Faber Stradivaris for $25,900, but that's probably near the upper limit on eBay.

And I'm not surprised. , posted on April 22, 2015 at 12:02:01
MannyE Audiophile Posts: 2088 Location: Miami Beach Joined: March 4, 2001	A 90,000 dollar turntable is like a 40 million dollar house. They are both going to be on the market for a while. Not many folks with the cash to lay down for that. And those that do have that kind of money have plenty of options to weigh before they pull the trigger.

RE: Rare ebay sighting, posted on April 22, 2015 at 12:03:21
Kindablue Audiophile Posts: 1072 Joined: August 7, 2003	Did you check his other audio he is selling? Check it out if you got the time, deep pockets.

RE: Rare ebay sighting, posted on April 22, 2015 at 12:56:43
teenage diplomat Audiophile Posts: 896 Location: burke, va usa Joined: February 3, 2001	It's been on Audiogon several times, no takers. Not surprised at the price, of course. If I have that much cash, it won't harm my bank balance to buy new.

People that rich are hard bargainers...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 13:23:25
vinyl1 Audiophile Posts: 3948 Joined: October 3, 2001	....and will offer him $65K max. Why do you think they're rich?

RE: People that rich are hard bargainers...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 13:27:46
Jabs1542 Audiophile Posts: 90 Location: Virginia Joined: December 18, 2014	It's probably Fremer's now that he has decided that a plinth-less table is the best :)

Fremer already has one. NT, posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:05:17
teenage diplomat Audiophile Posts: 896 Location: burke, va usa Joined: February 3, 2001	NT

RE: raises the question....., posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:23:01

user510

...which high end belt driver is the "Absolute King" of the belt drivers.

IIRC there are challengers to the Continuum:

Tech Das Air Force One

Clearaudio Statement

Walker Audio Proscenium black diamond V

It seems the Walker gets less press these days, but I suspect it still has a loyal following and.....is available for less money.

Other thoughts:
The Continuum comes with the top of the line tonearm (weird looker) and the Castellon TT stand (complete with mag-lev isolation).

Fremer, up until his most recent reviews, remains loyal to 'his' Continuum Caliburn...but he did modify his Castellon stand to hold a Minus-K isolation device.

I wonder which one wins overall....

Just woolgathering. Dealers can relax. I'm not in the market.

-Steve

Don't forget the Basis Work of Art...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:31:12
vinyl1 Audiophile Posts: 3948 Joined: October 3, 2001	...which Fremer has never reviewed. A.J. is not big on sending out review samples, but it is probably a formidable turntable. The best ones I have actually heard myself are the Kronos Sparta and the VPI Direct Drive, but we're talking big league here.

2,000 bucks for shipping? , posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:31:35
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	Now that is ridiculous. You could hire a driver to personally deliver it anywhere in the continental USA for less.

It is not in the US, posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:39:51

Awe-d-o-file
Dealer

Posts: 21037
Location: 50 miles west of DC
Joined: January 10, 2004

it says in the ad it is shipped from overseas and includes the stand too.

E
T

ET

"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

RE: no doubt and....., posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:45:05
user510	There will be more than one wood crate to hold and protect this expensive assembly of gear. Several hundred pounds of crated gear to be air-freighted around the globe. -Steve

RE: Rare ebay sighting, posted on April 22, 2015 at 14:56:14
6bq5 Audiophile Posts: 4393 Location: SF Bay Joined: August 16, 2001	or a lot of photoshop... His pictures remind me of that speaker MFGr in NH - Linn - or something like that.... Happy Listening

Yeah, at first I coughed..., posted on April 22, 2015 at 15:39:42
MannyE Audiophile Posts: 2088 Location: Miami Beach Joined: March 4, 2001	but then I realized all the work that needs to go into shipping this thing. 2K is still a tiny bit steep, but not insane. For 2K I would fly out there myself and listen to it before taking it home.

RE: People that rich are hard bargainers...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 16:47:33
tesla Audiophile Posts: 3180 Location: San Diego County, California Joined: October 25, 2000	What happened to Fremers TD 124? Proudly serving content-free posts since 1984.

RE: People that rich are hard bargainers...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 17:22:23
user510	"What happened to Fremers TD 124?" I did not know he (Mikey) ever even wrote about that model. Art Dudley, on the other hand, does own one and occasionally refers to it in reviews of other components and accessories. -Steve

Interesting, posted on April 22, 2015 at 18:47:22
Des Audiophile Posts: 2110 Location: Great Barrier Reef Joined: August 3, 2000 Contributor Since: August 2, 2000	I posted below on that score With Chris Sommovigo relocated to Japan wonder who looks after the brand in the US now I emailed David P in Melbourne a while ago and got no reply Des

RE: People that rich are hard bargainers...., posted on April 22, 2015 at 20:42:50
tesla Audiophile Posts: 3180 Location: San Diego County, California Joined: October 25, 2000	I stand corrected. Proudly serving content-free posts since 1984.

Sarasota, Florida..., posted on April 22, 2015 at 21:57:08
PAR	Is the item location. But the shipping cost quoted is for worldwide. Maybe the ad has been amended since you posted as shipping now reads $3K.

RE: Yeah, at first I coughed..., posted on April 22, 2015 at 22:01:34
PAR	Yes, but it'll cost $$$ to fly it home with you as the airline are unlikely to accept several large wooden crates as hand baggage.

RE: 2,000 bucks for shipping? , posted on April 23, 2015 at 06:01:56
Cpk Audiophile Posts: 1518 Location: PA Joined: May 13, 2005	insuring something that is 89k for shipment I'm sure is adding to that figure.

Cars get shipped freom overseas for far less, posted on April 23, 2015 at 07:50:56
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	It's a ridiculous price for shipping

RE: the key word is "shipped"...., posted on April 23, 2015 at 10:09:34

user510

....as in on an ocean going ship. Appropriate for automobiles, maybe not so much for 2nd hand audio gear. Imagine a crew of uncouth sailors on the freighter with the big "Maersk" logo on its bow handling your crates filled with $90K of merchandise and they don't have a clue, or care, what it is.

Try shipping a car via FedEx air.

On land shipping can mean hiring a trucking company to move your gear from one place to another. Depending on the size and weight of the gear it may be a better choice than going with FedEx or UPS. But which trucking company to trust!

-Steve

RE: Rare ebay sighting, posted on April 23, 2015 at 12:08:22
theophile Audiophile Posts: 1266 Location: australia Joined: July 16, 2003	It has been on eBay for well over one year.

RE: I am aware of it...., posted on April 23, 2015 at 12:25:45

user510

but...as you note, not many reviews of it. Not so many of us know its sound quality. It does have an impressive suspension system.

I probably should have included it based on price. But I don't know its price. I guess I could look that up. Or. We could send an email to AJ and ask for a price, etc.

And I could have included the current Goldmund Reference. Interesting how the Goldmund Reference from the 1980's was a direct drive, and now the current reference is belt drive. Same designer in Switzerland. I'd have to dig for a review of it, must be back around 2005 - 2010 or thereabouts.

Some disagreement among reviewers. Last I checked J. Valin at TAS still liked the Walker. Mikey at Stereophile still likes his Continuum. H. Pearson, before he died, really liked the Tech Das Air Force One.

And all of these reviewers claim to be some sort of "authority". But they tend to not agree on all things turntable.

-Steve

RE: Cars get shipped freom overseas for far less, posted on April 23, 2015 at 15:05:49
Awe-d-o-file Dealer Posts: 21037 Location: 50 miles west of DC Joined: January 10, 2004	No the car thing doesn't work. The 3 piece TT and stand and the crates to ship them easily weigh 500 pounds. $2K is in line and we don't know the source country overseas. The TT is NOT in the USA E T ET "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

RE: Yeah, at first I coughed..., posted on April 23, 2015 at 15:06:59
Awe-d-o-file Dealer Posts: 21037 Location: 50 miles west of DC Joined: January 10, 2004	fly out where? The ad doesn't say where it is it just says overseas. It is not at the dealer in Florida. E T ET "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

Yeah, I was searching for some turntable stuff and stumbled across it..., posted on April 24, 2015 at 11:56:03
Bry Manufacturer Posts: 5610 Location: S. Florida Joined: July 21, 2005	I guess I should have checked it more closely.

Let's Review, posted on April 24, 2015 at 15:27:41
Inmate51	It rotates at, hopefully, a more-or-less constant 33-1/3, 45, and 78 rpm. With any luck, the rumble/noise floor is down by at least 70 dB. Hmmm... pretty much any turntable over $300 meets that criteria. Soooo... what does the other $89,600 do? :)

So do it..., posted on April 24, 2015 at 15:38:46
Lew Audiophile Posts: 10912 Location: Bethesda, Maryland Joined: December 11, 2000	nt

RE: the key word is "shipped"...., posted on April 26, 2015 at 07:08:18
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	Having "shipped" delicate equipment overseas I can tell you first hand that cargo is treated with far more care on the ships than they are on the airplanes. What you lose is time. no one handles cargo in a more Neanderthal way than the folks who work for the airlines. I have also sent large and delicate gear by plane over seas. The 2,000 dollars is ridiculous.

That doesn't even make sense, posted on April 26, 2015 at 07:09:55
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	Do what?

Here's what it does...., posted on May 6, 2015 at 05:30:44
MannyE Audiophile Posts: 2088 Location: Miami Beach Joined: March 4, 2001	It makes a $3,000 turntable look like a bargain.

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