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Empire 208 Turntable

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Posted on July 22, 2014 at 16:14:51
AudioSoul
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Does anyone know why the platter mat has taller ribs on the edge and the get shorter as they go inward?. It cant be passive anti-skating because you want to put pressure on the stylus to move outward....

 

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To support different diameter records? 7, 10, and 12? )MT(, posted on July 22, 2014 at 16:41:15
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RE: To support different diameter records? 7, 10, and 12? )MT(, posted on July 22, 2014 at 22:02:45
AudioSoul
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I guess they don't care that a 12" LP isn't supported in the middle by the spindle.......

 

If it concerns you, use a Herbies or other aftermarket mat, preferably a Herbies . . . ;8^) /nt\, posted on July 23, 2014 at 03:31:00
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Ever try the Funk Firm mat? [nt], posted on July 23, 2014 at 08:48:13
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RE: Empire 208 Turntable, posted on July 23, 2014 at 09:10:53
CometCKO
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 The rubber mat was one of the first things I replaced on my Empire 208.

I've tried the Herbies too, but found that it softens things a bit too much. Of course, that was after I had dampened the platter with an elastomeric 3M epoxy and replaced the base plate & plinth with a 1" aluminum plate + Isodamp + MDF. I also machined the platter flat and removed the center ridge that required the use of mats with custom holes.

Perhaps the fact that records fit snugly over the spindle combined with strong support from the outer rubber rib were part of the rationale? Some people really like the original mat, claiming that transients are better than with mats that support all across the record surface. I currently prefer a very thin Victor suede mat and use a record weight -- an Audio Technica AT-618 disk stabilizer that fits over the oversize Empire spindle.

I would suggest that this is an area where experimentation will suit you better than advice, to see what works best in your system, with your music and your tonearm/cartridge.

Hope this helps!





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RE: Empire 208 Turntable, posted on July 23, 2014 at 09:31:25
AudioSoul
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Thanks for the info. Yes it does help. Thanks

 

RE: If it concerns you, use a Herbies or other aftermarket mat, preferably a Herbies . . . ;8^) /nt\, posted on July 23, 2014 at 09:33:58
AudioSoul
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Just trying to keep that vintage vibe and one less thing to buy. I get tired of all these purchases. So why do I keep doing it? I don't know...

 

to slightly cup the record., posted on July 23, 2014 at 12:12:55
richardl
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 It allows it to get rid of the warps slightly. Add a weight and it will work better I suppose.

 

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