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I want one of these WW2 German radios.

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Posted on February 4, 2017 at 15:58:23
Michael Samra
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Look at the construction quality of this thing and the strange tubes.This thing has magnificent performance.







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RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 4, 2017 at 19:20:22
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Interesting, but in same weight class I am liking this more.

 

RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 4, 2017 at 22:11:30
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anything WWII and I am hooked, man so well built and conceived, what is it about the Germans? -they can engineer stuff in their sleep..

 

RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 4, 2017 at 22:12:36
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Jim
Do you have a Collins 648? Those are double conversion but like all the military Collins,you need to mod the product detector for SSB. The 75A4 I haven't had to tho.The 648 doesn't have 10 meters but that German one doesn't either.
I just love the way that German WW2 radio performs.I wonder if he did any upgrades?
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when Goering realised that Britain had won the radar/radio war ..., posted on February 5, 2017 at 00:28:39
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he vowed he would get a British radiogram for his home. When the Germans won of course, which they didn't.


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RE: when Goering realised that Britain had won the radar/radio war ..., posted on February 5, 2017 at 05:20:09
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The Germans were fighting the allied forces at a machinery rate of 200 to 1.
When the Germans had one plane up against 200 American and British planes,not to mention tanks and ships,those odds are difficult to overcome.They were lacking raw materials but they had technology that was the world's best at that time.Thank God we drop tons of artillery on them or they would have developed the atomic and hydrogen bombs first.
Anyway,those radios are excellent performers.I'm sure his antenna system is first rate but any WW2 radio that worked like that one did is incredible.I looked at the engineering just in the bandswitch and it's second to none.The Collins R390 and Hammarlund SP600 and Racal RA-17 rival it, but keep in mind they came out 10 years later.
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RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 5, 2017 at 06:08:55
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Yes, I own the dusty R-648. I plan to install the AC power supply today. I likely will only use it for 75 meter AM & shortwave listening.

I am looking for a the Collins 51J-4 500 KHz IF 3.1 kHz mechanical filter to replace the R-648 1.4kHz IF filter for narrow AM or wide SSB. Got one Michael?

 

RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 5, 2017 at 10:40:44
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Powered up the R-648 today. Very nice receiver.

 

At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 5, 2017 at 12:18:04
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Do try not to admire fascism too much, eh?

And, the bombing war played only a small role in Germany's defeat.

Its war with Russia was the main cause of its defeat.






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RE: At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 5, 2017 at 12:43:19
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Starting cleaning up face.

 

About radios in warfare? In fact, any materiel?, posted on February 5, 2017 at 12:52:14
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German radars and radios were unnecessarily good for their task.

A comment from the top technician of the British Y service? Their radio intercept service? Was that even to the end of teh war a new German radar was easy to distinguish because it's signal's stability was unnecessarily good.

Overdone and too fit for purpose = expensive and perhaps slow to make.

Much of Germany's manufacturing of war materiel was chaotic, poorly planned and obsolescent.

Necessary changes to weapons were often too late.

Hitler's 'operating style' began with a decision to let his subordinates compete with each other, and so the arms programs were not controlled.

He also decided to keep a peace-time economy going way into the war, even after mid 1941. Not until 1942 did German mass-production kick in.

Even after Speer took over, which was too late in any case, many pointless and hugely wasteful programs kept going. Eg? The V1, V2, V3, V4, the Maus and the King Tiger (aka TigerII.)

Hitler famously lost his temper over the main gun armament of the PzKWIII, twice. The decision to equip it with a 3.7cm instead of the 5cm he wanted, and then going with a shorter 5cm gun, than the long 5cm. No-one was shot and so the III was way under-gunned by mid 1941. No-one was punished.

Only in the deserts of Nth Africa did the III still perform well, mostly because of Britain being stuck with the 2pdr for far too long, and their self-imposed tactics.

Even at the PAA's defeat at 2nd Alamein in November 1942, there were more IIIs than MkIV's with the longer 7.5cm gun.

So that Germany was on the down curve long before British, US, Canadian and of course Russian production capacity at last kicked in. Russia managed to move its factories behind the Urals in 1941 and got it going flat out within months.

"Quantity has a quality, all its own!"


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RE: At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 5, 2017 at 13:43:56
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And, the bombing war played only a small role in Germany's defeat.

Its war with Russia was the main cause of its defeat.

Absolutely.There were many factors and Russia played a significant role as they lost 25m people. Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.
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RE: At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 5, 2017 at 13:44:36
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Nice
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"Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.", posted on February 5, 2017 at 14:16:56
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Actually Mike, the materiel support from the West was quite small. And I have researched this. Including that via Iran, and through Vladivostok.

Of all the materiel supplied it was the 6WD trucks, and some half-tracks, that they really took too, and began making their own.

The Bell P39, that the US gave up on, turned out really well too, because its performance at low to medium altitudes was excellent and its armament very effective, for air to air and a bit less for ground attack, where its 37MM Browning cannon was not effective against German tank armour. Against the open-top / open-back SPs, yes.

It didn't do too badly in New Guinea and through the Solomons, either. Dropped by end '42.

Taken overall, the Allies including the Russians, got the technical quality and quantity balance right, while Germany did not.

Often, new high-tech. equipment went into service well before sufficient quality, but the tactical trials feedback processes were rapid. Once a design was settled, volume could kick in.

There are two good examples of this in Aircraft radar. Britain's first air interception radar sets, and the centimetric radars all of which needed a fair bit of servcie feed back before they were right.

Speed of response to an urgent need / emerging role, being more important than ultimate quality.

Which was my initial point, you see?! :-)


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RE: "Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.", posted on February 5, 2017 at 15:25:20
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It depends whom you ask I suppose.
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Russia pretty much survived on her own until 1943, when they began winning e.g. Kursk, and never looked back., posted on February 5, 2017 at 15:46:49
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The aid from the USA was mostly after that and was mostly trucks and jeeps.

Their survival until 1943 is almost completely theirs.




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RE: "Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.", posted on February 5, 2017 at 16:15:27
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I fact Stalin was bitching to Roosevelt & Churchill about the lack of support that Russia was getting from the U.S. & England & that his troops were being sacrificed while we sat on our hands waiting to invade France.

 

RE: I want one of these WW2 German radios., posted on February 5, 2017 at 16:26:13
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Ive always used the CW position on my old Hallicrafters for SSB without issue


ET

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It depens on who you ask I suppose, posted on February 5, 2017 at 16:26:32
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All so known as alternative Facts.

: )

I have to get my Mac 240 going again. I shut it down about a year ago because after it is on for a short time I get an increasingly loud buzz from a tranny. Nothing was distorting, but I just shut it down. Next day I turned it back on & it was quiet, but after 3-4 min. on increasingly loud buzz. Opened up the bottom & every thing looks normal. No leaking, dripping, bulging or burnt anything I can see.

Thoughts ?

 

RE: It depens on who you ask I suppose, posted on February 5, 2017 at 21:53:40
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You may have a filter cap that is intermittent.
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RE: Russia pretty much survived on her own until 1943, when they began winning e.g. Kursk, and never looked back., posted on February 5, 2017 at 21:57:02
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They lost 25m people that's a big deal.We did supply them with military aid and that was a well publicized fact.Nobody had the production capability we had in the US at that time but the USSR was a big proponent in helping defeat the 3rd Reich.
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and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease., posted on February 6, 2017 at 02:27:31
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So, it doesn't look to me that lend lease was a critical factor for Russia.

And, there's no data in that article.

Russia had a very large industrial sector. Russian production was a big factor in winning the war. No less important than the USA's.

Their weapons, esp. tanks and artillery, were at least as good as anyone elses. The Yak 3 and the Sturmovik were the best in their class.

Believe what you like, Mike, but I'll stick to what I know to be true.


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StuG III, posted on February 6, 2017 at 08:36:39
The conversion of Pz III production to the assault gun StuG III seems to be one of the better use of materiel and manpower. In order to make an effective weapon, based on pre-existing tooling.

I believe that all variants of the StuG III killed more Russian T-34, than all other tanks. Something close to 10:1 kill ratio.

 

yes, very true. , posted on February 6, 2017 at 09:29:33
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and I'll come back to that. But .....

Russia won Barbarossa in 1941, just. With almost no help at all, from the Western allies. Without many T34s too.

Because they did and had got their factories back behind the Urals, they were going to win and Germany was going to lose.

Just as the USNavy did at Coral Sea and Midway, just.

Took Russia three and half years to defeat Germany and its allies and the USA and its allies three years to defeat Japan.

The STUGs - were originally intended to support the infantry in attacks with short 7.5cm low-velocity guns.

They were given long high velocity guns, urgently - in consequence of the failure by Germany in Barbarossa. Unintended consequences at work.

Not as flexible as tanks, with the same guns, and very good for lying in wait. And, yet more flexible than towed Anti/Tank guns.

So, this shift within the Wehrmacht wasn't a sign of victory, but of defeat. It's a defensive posture weapon. As were the Tiger and Tiger II.

One asks oneself why Hitler's Germany went to war, with the aim always being Russia? Because that always was his aim, and he was running the show.

Coral Sea just looks like a simple draw. One smallish IJN carrier sunk. But, two big carriers out of the picture, one because its aircrew had gone, and the other badly damaged, and both go back to Japan for a long period.

USN loses one over-large carrier and patches up Yorktown at Pearl.


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RE: "Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.", posted on February 6, 2017 at 09:40:39
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Hundreds of thousands of Studebaker trucks were provided to the USSR. That freed Soviet industry to make T34 tanks.

BTW, Stalin shunted some of those trucks to the NKVD, for distinctly non-military purposes. :>(

It took the combined contributions of blood and wealth of all the United Nations to bring the Axis down.


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RE: yes, very true. , posted on February 6, 2017 at 12:53:22
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After Zhukov counterattacked in Dec., 1941 and after Midway in June, 1942, the ultimate outcome was decided.

Stalin, eventually, learned to listen to his generals, but in early 1942 his meddling cost an awful lot. Hitler (thankfully) never learned the lesson.

Very sadly, General Sherman was right. "War is all hell."


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RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease., posted on February 6, 2017 at 18:05:09
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The T34 was the best tank. Soviet artillery was effective, by sheer weight of numbers, not great accuracy. German officers had great respect for American artillery. "Acquired the target quickly."

Yes, Russian production was very important. However, consider the fact that the military output of U.S. industry was barely bettered by the combined efforts of all the other belligerents on both sides.


Eli D.

 

RE: "Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this.", posted on February 6, 2017 at 20:26:26
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That is why we call them the Greatest Generation. IMO, Hitler's early and big mistake was not giving Rommel enough backing to win in Africa. Synthetic gas was not going to cut it. The lack of gasoline in the late war stopped him in his tracks.

Dave

 

RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease., posted on February 6, 2017 at 21:39:56
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Exactly
We had production levels that were unreal. We had GM,Ford,Chrysler,Studebaker,Kaiser,were a few of the largest companies running full war time production while suspending all consumer vehicle production.
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RE: At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 6, 2017 at 21:42:36
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I found out the info on that German radio.It doesn't even receiver 40 meters because its good to like 6700khz or thereabouts.
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RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease., posted on February 7, 2017 at 03:49:04
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While consumer vehicle production was suspended, the U.S. was the only "player" to increase civil industrial output. All the other nations at war cut civil production WAY back.


Eli D.

 

RE: At the end perhaps 5 to 1 when comparing bombers to fighters., posted on February 7, 2017 at 05:52:38
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Very interesting Michael. Tubes are also available on ebay, but expensive.

 

absolutely,, posted on February 7, 2017 at 23:53:10
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Thanks.


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Operation Zitadelle, posted on February 8, 2017 at 12:20:00
Nearly ground 75% of all combat worthy German armor into dust. Not sure Germans had any major counter-offensive armored operations on the East, after Kursk debacle.

I guess the 6.SS-Panzer push against the Russians in Hungary, 1945 (Operation Frühlingserwachen). Which ground down whatever German tanks were left in the arsenal.

Battle of Bulge & Nordwind destroyed majority of remaining German armor on the West.

 

RE: Operation Zitadelle, posted on February 8, 2017 at 13:33:17
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no german radios here ... yet.
a little OT but still WWII ... rca ar88. I've used for years, bone stock, untouched ... doesn't got hot even after hours of use ... as sensitive as my 67' eac r390a (not as selective, obviously). been slowly changing leaky caps. nice radio.
best,
mike

 

RE: when Goering realised that Britain had won the radar/radio war ..., posted on February 9, 2017 at 15:46:40
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The Germans also figured out how to use the forward scatter from the Chain Home transmitters to detect and track British bomber flights coming their way. EW is very cool and both sides were quite clever.

 

R-648, posted on February 19, 2017 at 17:06:57
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This radio is great on 75 meter AM. It is quieter vs my previous top gun National NC-183D. It is if the signal is out there I can clearly hear it.

 

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