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Posted on April 14, 2016 at 12:44:44
cloudwalker
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 Both my friend and I like good music. But we have different approaches. He has a new system (I think Polk TI9 speakers and Emovita amps and a newer B&W subwoofer) and I have an older system (ADS L710 speakers and an HK 7000 receiver and an Atlantic Tech 172 PBM subwoofer). Both systems are smooth and accurate, but to me his system sounds "sterile and fatiguing, while mine seems musical, non fatiguing and has some character." Do you guys like the "old" sound better too? Or am I missing something?

 

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RE: old vs new sound`, posted on April 14, 2016 at 13:04:47
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 I don't think it has much to do with old v new. It's about component set A v B and the peripherals like cables etc and the rooms. You also forgot to mention the sources which mean a lot.

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RE: old vs new sound`, posted on April 14, 2016 at 13:16:44
cloudwalker
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 By "sources" do you mean the music source? I am comparing CD music for example. I suppose what makes the biggest difference are the main speakers. It just seems to me good, older speakers had more "character" and were easier to listen too.

 

Too many variables, posted on April 14, 2016 at 13:38:38
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 as was previously mentioned. The Emo gear is a bit lean sounding and the analog section of a CDP can make a marked difference as well. I find some op amp based preamps and source components fatiguing, too.

Did you mean Polk RTi9 speakers? I've compared my New Advents to smaller Polk LSi9 standmounts and find the Advents less neutral through the lower midrange.

I used to sell the ADS line and know the 710 well. I had LV1020s for a while myself. They are a touch boxy sounding in that range which is pretty much absent with modern speakers.

 

RE: old vs new sound`, posted on April 14, 2016 at 13:56:08
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 I meant the sources in the systems like the CD player and/or other digital source, turntables, tuner, tape etc. They make a big impact on sound too. A bad digital source especially can sound as you said in your original post.

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RE: Too many variables, posted on April 14, 2016 at 15:12:09
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 Do you remember the ADS M9? It was a three way with dome mids and tweets. Quite nice. I had a pair.

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"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

 

RE: Too many variables, posted on April 14, 2016 at 15:27:03
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 Not familiar with that model. I was involved with them from about '74-'79.

During those years, the audio shop where I worked sold lots of systems using H-K 430/730 receivers, ADS 710/810 speakers with Philips 212 turntables using Sonus Red/Green cartridges.

Darn nice systems for that day.

 

di you mean the model for the receiver?, posted on April 14, 2016 at 15:42:18
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 Look up the HKK AVR7000 online. It was HK's top of the line receiver in about 2000. The MSRP was $1,800

 

No, posted on April 14, 2016 at 15:53:45
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 one can easily find information on the Harman-Kardon 7000.

If you return to my post, click the embedded link and see if those are your friend's speakers. The model # you gave is non-existent.

 

Old vs new speakers, posted on April 14, 2016 at 18:37:32
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 You may be correct. I decided my ancient modded and recapped Marantz 7MKIIs needed to be replaced. My choice was a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 70's based on the sound of my son's Polk Monitors. After break in time accrued an A/B comparison was made. The wife and I both preferred the Marantz sound. The Polks bass was weak (relatively) and the Marantz upper range wasn't as good as the Polks. Pam's comment was that the Polks sounded brittle.

Eventually though we found that playing both - Polks on speaker channel A, Marantz on speaker channel B - along with fiddling with treble & bass combines the strength of each to make for very listenable sound.

 

you are correct, posted on April 14, 2016 at 21:04:34
cloudwalker
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RE: old vs new sound`, posted on April 24, 2016 at 14:57:14
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 You were right the first time!

 

RE: Too many variables, posted on April 26, 2016 at 10:04:31
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 I am familiar with everything in that system. That would have been a very good system for the money and it would sound great on every kind of music I can think of. I sold audio equipment in the 80's, so my system of choice, in that range, was a Denon turntable and receiver, Precept or Denon cartridge with ADS or Energy speakers. Models would be dependent on what they wanted to spend. For less money, it would be Yamaha, Energy or Boston Acoustics, and Precept.

Dave

 

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