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Posted on March 31, 1999 at 21:44:23
Joe L.


 
Hi,

I have had a look at the magnan web site about their recommendation for DIY parallel power line filters. They recommend that 100mF worth of cap should (plus some bypass caps 0.47mF, 0.01mF) be placed from live to neutral. This should be placed near to the equipment outlets for good results. I am thinking of doing this with adiitional things like placing some MOVs and discharge resistors in addition to the caps. Has anyone tried this ? & of course is it dangerous ? BTW, I have tried Thorsten's DIY filter as mentioned in TNT-audio.

Regards,
Joe L.

 

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Re: DIY parallel filter, posted on April 1, 1999 at 08:35:41
Alan Ersen


 
The typical commercially available AC line filter is a Pi filter using some series inductors along with some relatively small value bypass capacitors. I would be skeptical about adding large amounts of capacitance to the AC line because of the high voltages and the possible breakdown of the electrolytic capacitors. You should have sufficient filter capacitance in your amplifiers already, if not then I would add more there.
A dedicated circuit with large gauge wiring straight from your electrical distribution panel(breaker box) along with heavy duty(commercial or hospital) outlets is what is needed. An isolation transformer will also work wonders in isolating line noise.
Alan Ersen

 

Re: DIY parallel filter, posted on April 4, 1999 at 20:58:50
The Magnan tweak is OK, but should only be doine as per his recommendatrions for the AC line caps, or better (see my DIY AC Line Filter note at my web site, URL in FAQ section of this board). I would recommend also series fuses of 6-8 amps for safety's sake, in case the caps short. Then, instead of exploding, or bursting into flames, they will blow the fuse.

The caps should also be enclosed in a sturdy case or enclosure, with the conflicting requirement that they be located physically as close to the AC outlets as possible. I also recommend the discharge resistors.

Personally, i thingk that most of the benefit could be had from 1 uF caps, without nearly the amount of safety hazard, this size should not require a bypass except for digital (computer) devices.

Jon Risch

 

Safety - was: Re: DIY parallel filter, posted on April 5, 1999 at 06:49:01
Hi all,

Just some safety notes here!

All Capacitors used in these Filters require a X or Y Rating of some form.

The 0.1uF Capacitors I use in the Parallel Filters published on TNT-Audio are Rated for Mains Connection in the UK in X or Y positions at 250V AC Mains.

The large (in my case 8uF) Capacitors are intend for power-Factor Correction and hence also safe for X connection on 240V AC Mains.

ANY subtitutions MUST adhere to similar standards. Capacitors NOT rated for power-Factor Correction, or X/Y Connection at the Mains-Voltages in your country MUST NOT BE EMPLOYED in these Filters.

Electrolytic Capacitors cannot be used at all, all Capacitors must be film or Paper types OF SUITABLE RATING.

Besides that, these Filters work great and are cheap. There is a rate of diminishing return though.

However, as the US has a Mains-Voltage of half that in the UK, I'd expect that in the US MUCH larger Values than in the UK still make a notable Difference.

My Stereo currently uses a total of 32uF across the Mains at the 24V AC UK Mains-Voltage.

For the same Energy-storage on Peakes the US Mains would require about 150uF....

But remeber - with ANYTHING to do with Mains-Voltages -

PLEASE BE SAFE

Later Thorsten

 

Re: thanks ! (nt), posted on April 5, 1999 at 18:01:35
Joe L.


 
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