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Quadratic Query

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Posted on March 28, 1999 at 07:43:38
Doc B.


 
Anybody have any results to share re homebrew quadratic diffusors? I'm slowly getting a new listening room built (still at the wiring stage), and I'd like to correspond with anyone who might have some experience constructing and/or measuring the results from their use of quadratic diffusors, polys, etc., For various frequency ranges, before I get to that stage.
TIA

 

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Re: Quadratic Query, posted on March 29, 1999 at 21:07:05
See the original Peter D'Antonio patent for the device, it gives actual depths and dimensions, however, it is
a real bear to build.

http://www.patents.ibm.com/patquery
and plug in these two patent numbers:
5401921 and 5817992

Go to the images once the actual patent has been pulled, up inthe upper left hand corner, there are graphics representing the patent diagrams/graphics. Click on those to go the actual copies of the patent. These show the diagrams for the device, and will show you actual construction details.

My advice: either wait about two more weeks until I release my DIY diffusor note (total cost for a 4X6 diffusor around $30-40), or get the inexpensive retail alternative, from Auralex

EXCERPT FROM DIY ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS NOTE:
For a retail solution, Auralex has the T-Fusor for about $220
(includes S&H) for four 2 foot by 2 foot panels that are 5 1/2"
deep. This will create a 4 foot by 4 foot diffusor area on a
wall, and would be considered a minimum amount of diffusion to
provide any real improvements. They are plastic molded sheets,
meant to have the rear filled in with fiberglass or polyester
batting to combat the hollow plastic sound that would
otherwise result from a thin sheet of plastic. Careful use
of some of the expanding foam sold for filling/insulating gaps
and cracks would probably be superior to these loose fillings
for stiffening and damping the plastic walls of the diffusor.
For comparison, a 4X4 foot square of QRD diffusor would run
over $700, and a 45X45 inch square of Art Diffusor, Series E
runs $500.
END OF EXCERPT

By the time you get done cutting all the wood, and manufacturing enough of the panels, you would have been better off buying the T-Fusor's. My DIY diffusor will not be that hard to build, or take that long. I just don't
have it fully finalized yet, and written up to post.

Jon Risch

 

Re: Quadratic Query, posted on March 30, 1999 at 08:49:08
Doc B.


 
Thanks very much for the rundown, John.
I have the formulae and such down for the quadratic sequence diffusors. I'm primarily interested in what folks might have come up with for determination of a "most functional" bandwidth for diffusors.
My particular listening room setup may preclude the use of very many prefabbed diffusor panels. Most notably some double glass doors on the back wall may require the use of custom made lexan or acrylic diffusors over them.
I'm very interested in what you have come up with.
Is your design based on some mathematical sequence like the quadratic or primitive root diffusors? I look foward to reading about it.

 

Re: Quadratic Query, posted on March 30, 1999 at 18:31:43
The most common bandwidth is from approx. 250 Hz to 8 kHz. This will provide the majority of the benefits of diffusors without requiring excessive depth or an excessive number of wells/partitions.

My own diffusor design is aimed squarely at the DIYer, is meant to be cheap, effective, and easy to build. I use an old recording studio trick via some polycylindrical specular diffusors, and have so far measured approx. 70% of the performance of the retail QRD/PRD's. I am shooting for a bit higher performance, or I would have released the DIY note by now.

With this design, the pattern is critical, and I am determining it via seat of the pants and empirical testing.

Jon Risch

 

Re: Quadratic Query, posted on March 31, 1999 at 07:48:45
Doc B.


 
Thanks, John. I had been thinking that polys would be a lot simpler way to deal with those glass doors at the back of my room. In spite of the what is said in Master Handbook of Acoustics, the plots they show for the decay spectra of poly vs. quadratic diff. don't seem that hugely different.
I've also been toying with the idea of suspending a bunch of stuffed plastic mixing bowls of different sizes from the ceiling at various heights in the back of the room... I guess however you approach it, maybe you gotta like modern art if you want a good listening room.

 

LOL ... Doc B, that's a wonderful idea! I'm gonna try it!, posted on March 31, 1999 at 10:49:30
petew


 
thanks!

 

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