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A project machine.....with some history.

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Posted on October 2, 2015 at 15:00:46

Otari MX 5050 BII -2
A very versatile and capable r2r deck. this one has some miles on it. I bought it off ebay circa 2008. It was advertised as being very much used but recently serviced and fully operational. I received the deck pretty much in the condition described. Rough around the edges, but everything worked. And I played some commercial tapes through it and thought it sounded pretty good, considering the output was piped through Otari circuitry and into the balanced input on my integrated amp.

Last year I decided to sell this deck because I had a couple of others in better condition. The sale over ebay went well..... until the buyer reported that he had received the unit in non functional condition. As in, nothing worked. Wow. When I shipped the unit everything worked. So, I had no choice but to refund the buyer and receive the deck back. When It came back to me I could see the problem. Shipping damage.

The deck had obviously been dropped by the shipper, I presumed. And it was likely dropped more than once. The 4 feet on the back side were crushed (smashed to pieces). Once I removed the back cover I found what you see in the above photo. The big tranny held in place by a single steel strap had broken its strap. Several plugs connect into the various features of the deck and these plugs held. So did the wires. However the transformer was free to swing about in pendulum fashion and crash into whatever might be in its path. The only evidence of obvious damage occurred here:

the largest of the PCB has a nasty crack near a fastener point.

Here's a close-up detail of the damage to it:

In the macro photo it can be seen that the crack in the board also wiped out one circuit. This, I presume, is the cause of deck malfunction.

It gives me an idea; 1) use adhesive to seal the crack in the pcb. 2) take a very fine guage of copper hook-up wire and solder it over the missing piece to bridge the gap and repair the break in that circuit.

I did this once before on an old car from the 1970's that had a similar break in the pcb that distributed current to the instrument display on it. That actually worked. Here it seems I have nothing left to lose. Either replace the board with another of same (but undamaged) or try the bridge repair.

For those who want to know, more installments on this project are to come.

-Steve

 

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RE: A project machine.....with some history., posted on October 2, 2015 at 16:16:05
Listens2tubes
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I have seen the control board being sold on ebay more than once.
Have you tweaked today?

 

RE: ...have I tweaked...?, posted on October 2, 2015 at 16:27:24
I'm not certain what that means. Would I enjoy it?

-Steve

 

RE: A project machine.....with some history., posted on October 2, 2015 at 17:46:14
Bill Way
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What a shame. At least the fix looks pretty easy. Fix it and enjoy it - those decks are ridiculously good.

WW
"Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

 

RE: ...have I tweaked...?, posted on October 2, 2015 at 21:25:41
John Elison
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It appears to be his signature line.

 

RE: first attempt...., posted on October 3, 2015 at 11:57:50

Two-part epoxy was used to repair the crack. After 20 hours drying time, I decided it had cured enough to stand up to the next step; creating a solder bridge over the broken circuit. It all seems to have worked.

With the circuit board re-attached, and all plugs re-inserted, it is time to test and see if anybody is at home.

Next step was to try it out. Wouldn't it be nice if the fix was as simple as this?! So I put the deck back on its little table, plugged the power cord in, plugged the balanced IC into the back of the Otari and the Integrated amp.

I pulled out the commercial tape, Blood Sweat & Tears, Child Is Father To The Man. Threaded and pushed play.

It seems to be functioning as before, except the tape counter doesn't light up. Otherwise, function and sound are there.

Additionally, it needs a pair of light bulbs on the left VU meter. That is as before.

But now I am reacquainted with the sound of the Otari output electronics. Not quite full sounding. Kinda' cheap. While I've got the covers off, I should likely do a bypass from playback head to an external tape pre-amp. But that will be the subject of another post on another day.

For now I need to source the problem with the tape counter malfunction. It had worked before.

-Steve

 

RE: first attempt....follow-up fix, posted on October 3, 2015 at 16:31:52


I just needed to make sure 'all' the plugs were correctly seated. Now the tape counter lights up and functions.

-Steve

 

RE: ...darn, posted on October 4, 2015 at 10:38:04
...not really in the know, but I kinda' thought he was suggesting something illegal but fun.

-Steve

 

RE: A project machine.....with some history., posted on October 4, 2015 at 13:02:52
CAM3XL
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I have this exact same deck in my possession. It was given to me as a gift and I am trying to be brave and open it myself to do some basic cleaning, install "The Tape Project's" tape path upgrade and install a bypass line out so that I can use outboard tape head amp. This will be a playback only machine, no recording necessary. I can use a soldering gun and follow instructions so I'm not so worried about the upgrade kit, but I could use some help on the bypass line (aka I have no idea how to even begin). Also, can the front plates be removed and reconditioned? I would love to do a funky thin paint job on the face plates and replace the knobs. But so much of that cosmetic stuff on this deck is functional too. Don't want to screw up my deck.


Whatever sounds good...do that.

 

RE: update...., posted on October 17, 2015 at 19:24:01
One week later and the machine still functions well. That solder bridge on the main pcb, ugly as it is, still seems to be holding.

I was ready to give up on tape altogether, now, I'm playing through what's left of my collection of commercial R2R tapes. .. mostly classical titles, and find myself wanting to keep the rest of it.

-Steve

 

FYI, posted on October 13, 2015 at 08:18:55
I started a thread called "Otari Brochure", with pics of the front and back of the vintage brochure. Feel free to download and print them if you like - that's why it's there.

:)

 

RE: thanks...!, posted on October 13, 2015 at 09:17:39
That's very useful. I like vintage hi fi ads.

I also have an Otari ad brochure available. But in pdf format.
Additionally I have an MX5050 BII parts list and Service manual. For the Mx 5011 I have an ops & Maintenance manual....also in pdf.

These are free for the download of course. Link at page bottom.

 

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