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Intona USB isolator

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Posted on February 13, 2017 at 02:51:58
akltam
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 My Intona USB isolator has just arrived. After trying it for a while, it does improve on the sound quality of my USB dac. The biggest improvement is that the instruments are separated more clearly. Sound stages are improved and bass goes deeper. Highly recommended.

 

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Comparative assessment with measurements, posted on February 13, 2017 at 03:26:09
fmak
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 http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/group-test-universal-serial-bus-industry-standard-cables-connectors-and-communications-protocols-between-computers-and-electronic-devices-gadgets-aq-jitterbug-uptone-regen-ifi-iusb3-0-ipurifier-ipurifier2-intona-w4s-recovery-any-more-%85-31332/

See remarks about the effectiveness of the Intona

 

Score 90 with the combination of , posted on February 13, 2017 at 06:25:46
akltam
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 Intona + iFi micro iUSB3.0 according to that poster.

It does provide isolation and regeneration capability.

 

Audiobyte Hydra Z does both, posted on February 13, 2017 at 06:48:04
fmak
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 and can have external power. I have long used it and it sounds as good as any, but without 2-3 separate boxes.

 

rugged version of the Amanero USB adaptor, posted on February 13, 2017 at 08:19:19
akltam
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 This is a rugged version of the Amanero USB standalone adaptor using CCHD_957 crystal and TPS7A4700 voltage regulator. It can output as i2S (HDMI).

https://world.taobao.com/item/536682540041.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w9789869-11612113831.10.ONz4Ez

When they(LKS) bring out the dual ES9038 Dac, I am considering getting one of these.

 

RE: Intona USB isolator, posted on February 13, 2017 at 08:21:48
AbeCollins
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Yup, the Intona worked great with my PS Audio NuWave DAC. It was more effective than the REGEN in my setup. I sold the REGEN quite a while ago.

I still own the Intona but don't find it necessary with the microRendu network streamer.



 

9028, posted on February 13, 2017 at 08:36:58
fmak
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 I have just bought the Gustard X20 in China, a lot cheaper than on western websites. They have improved on the enclosure as well. Mine an AL one is perfect.

Not yet powered up.

 

Similarly, posted on February 13, 2017 at 10:53:38
E-Stat
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 I still own the Intona but don't find it necessary with the microRendu network streamer.

I've read that the Audiophilleo converter I use between the mRendu and ARC DAC works as well or better than similar products like the Audiobyte Hydra Z.

Choose your box - or maybe none at all depending upon your configuration!

 

I've read , posted on February 13, 2017 at 11:47:23
fmak
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 but don't know the difference between a DAC, a usb isolator, and a usb isolator plus regenerator feeding a high quality dac.

Figures.

 

Sorry to hear that Fred, posted on February 13, 2017 at 11:55:35
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 The Audiophilleo feeding the Audio Research DAC8, btw, is a USB to S/PDIF converter. Perhaps you need to ramp up on that concept as well.

You may be aware that the microRendu renderer that Abe and I use incorporates a built-in a usb isolator/regenerator. You know - that optimization thing. :)

 

We be optimized !!, posted on February 13, 2017 at 12:11:12
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Fred be confused!!


 

But I be revelated, posted on February 13, 2017 at 13:59:12
My name is Fred
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 News of the optimiser has optimised my day.

 

So be it, posted on February 13, 2017 at 14:38:34
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 let it be! Have a wonderfully optimizated day!

 

Speaking of optimized days..., posted on February 13, 2017 at 15:28:28
E-Stat
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 according to 909 Texan women, computer time pales in comparison to #1 :)

"Optimized for Maximum Happiness"

 

RE: Intona USB isolator, posted on February 13, 2017 at 15:57:19
Mercman
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 The REGEN powered by the LPS-1 is quite special with the "right" DAC whatever that means :-).

Thank goodness for optimizations.

 

ES9038 is on its way, posted on February 13, 2017 at 20:01:18
akltam
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 I have contacted both the Gustard and the LKS maker. Both will have the ES9038 on its way this year.

I have requested them to use discrete component (no opamp) in the analog section. Also I have requested them to have separate regulators for the left and right analog section. This will improve the sound a lot. I hope they listen.

Alan

 

RE: Intona USB isolator - Regen, posted on February 13, 2017 at 22:12:13
fmak
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 is also very good battery powered. But you are replying to someone who sold his Regen because he couldn't hear a benefit.

 

RE: Sorry to hear that Fred, posted on February 13, 2017 at 22:15:16
fmak
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 Exactly, you are mixing your dac with your isolator/regenerator as I said

Read your own post.

 

RE: ES9038 is on its way, posted on February 13, 2017 at 22:16:51
fmak
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 Gustard has used discrete analog stages for sometime.

 

RE: ES9038 is on its way, posted on February 14, 2017 at 01:56:34
akltam
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 No, their IV still use op-amp. If I have not mistaken !

 

RE: ES9038 is on its way, posted on February 14, 2017 at 06:02:03
fmak
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 You'll have a job getting discrete IV; to my knowledfge only the UA2192 has this with all Class A discrete modules that run hot. Sounds good though but they no longer make it.

 

???, posted on February 14, 2017 at 06:14:44
E-Stat
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 you are mixing your dac with your isolator/regenerator as I said

I am "mixing" my DAC with the microRendu? Whatever does that mean?

microRendu streamer-->Audiophilleo USB to S/PDIF converter-->DAC


 

RE: Intona USB isolator - Regen, posted on February 14, 2017 at 06:55:12
ahendler
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 I also found the Intona to be much better then the Regen
I used an outboard linear supply for my Regen but it
doesn't do much in my system
Alan

 

RE: Intona USB isolator - Regen, posted on February 14, 2017 at 07:01:42
Mercman
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 I found the Intona to be different, not necessarily better than the Regen. It really depends on the DAC you are using. And the LPS used with the Regen is critical. I did like the Intona when I reviewed it. More to come :-)

 

+1 Yup, you got that (almost) right...., posted on February 14, 2017 at 10:05:58
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As others have also reported, I heard more benefit with my Intona USB isolator.



 

Excuse him. He's just confused -nt, posted on February 14, 2017 at 10:06:55
AbeCollins
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 .

 

You have one, posted on February 14, 2017 at 12:27:04
fmak
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 noisy computer!

 

RE: ???You, posted on February 14, 2017 at 12:29:21
fmak
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 don't understand your own post?

It figures over the totality of what you post and claims.

 

Your terse, posted on February 14, 2017 at 12:51:30
E-Stat
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 and non-communicative posts always have me shaking my head. WTF? Do even you understand the exact point you're trying to make?

I guess I'm gonna have to 'splain it to ya'!

First of all, click the embedded link in my post for referenced quote to support the statement I made. Hint: that's the underlined and blue text "Audiobyte Hydra Z". I've embedded the link again here so you don't have to return to my original post. But do anyway to understand that I referenced my observation from the very start.

Do you understand now?

"I've decided to add the comparison of the Audiophilleo and the Audiobyte Hydra-X here and updated the thread title. I owned both and had to choose one as I am not the collector type. I kept the Audiophilleo. "

Ok, so he has the Hydra X, not the Z.

 

It's evident that, posted on February 14, 2017 at 13:00:49
E-Stat
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 he (nor anyone else for that matter) has the foggiest clue as how his *response* relates to my observation about the comparison between the AP and the Hydra found within the linked source to which I refer.

edit: Now I wonder whether or not he understands how to view the embedded video.






 

No but your system is intolerably noisy! See the link, posted on February 14, 2017 at 14:17:38
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 How do you deal with that huge 39-lb Dell workstation of yours with the noisy blowers and cheap onboard audio? What a beast! And less powerful than a tiny quiet Mac Mini.

Massive blowers in the Dell T5500 workstation of yours


 

RE: ES9038 is on its way, posted on February 14, 2017 at 18:00:49
akltam
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 The latest ES9028PRO from LKS already use all discrete in analog section including the IV.

 

Fake news and response, posted on February 15, 2017 at 05:04:57
fmak
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 I have never used it for audio, just video processing at minimal cost.

You habit of inventing 'facts' puts you in the Faking category of posters.

 

Just the Facts, nothing but the facts, posted on February 15, 2017 at 09:01:18
AbeCollins
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I have never used it for audio, just video processing at minimal cost.
Your habit of inventing 'facts' puts you in the Faking category of posters.

You're either a liar or losing your memory.

FACT:
It's a fact that on July 15, 2016 fmak posted:

"I bought a Dell T5500 24G ddr3 2.67GHz 6 Core 18kg monster and is surprised by how very good onboard audio sounds."

"Latency is all time low for me O(10uS) for all transfers using Latency Mon and when output is set to a totally quiet core, audio sounds very good indeed."



 

RE: Just the Facts, nothing but the facts, posted on February 15, 2017 at 10:30:57
fmak
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 This does not mean that I use it for audio.

You generate fake posts thru distortion, period.

Get some common.

 

Facts are facts. YOU posted them. I didn't fake them, posted on February 15, 2017 at 11:37:05
AbeCollins
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 The Fact that you have refused for several years now to post any information about your system in your Profile leaves us to rely solely on the Facts that you post in these forums.

It's a Fact (not faked) that on July 15, 2016 fmak posted:

"I bought a Dell T5500 24G ddr3 2.67GHz 6 Core 18kg monster and is surprised by how very good onboard audio sounds."
"Latency is all time low for me O(10uS) for all transfers using Latency Mon and when output is set to a totally quiet core, audio sounds very good indeed."

Looks to me that you were enjoying fine audio from your noisy Dell workstation with massive blowers in it. And you claim my tiny Mac Mini is noisy? LoL !

Blowers from the Dell T5500

Dell T5500



 

Your Facts are faked statemnts, posted on February 15, 2017 at 21:51:00
fmak
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 with gross distortion of the truth. You can't even understand the difference between acoustic and electrical noise. The Dell that I heard was far apart from my listening position as well, The computer was well insulated acoustically and it is idiotic to show pictures of the fan to insinuate the level of noise.

No brains or comprehension of what others say or post.

 

More back peddling and, posted on February 16, 2017 at 08:41:20
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 another circular argument not worth my time. bye bye

 

More useless disinformation, posted on February 17, 2017 at 01:39:58
fmak
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 from inmate faker

 

RE: Intona USB isolator - Regen, posted on February 17, 2017 at 15:05:26
Dynobot
 I think people are going about it all the wrong way and applying redundant clocking etc in the music chain.

 

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