Computer Audio Asylum

Music servers and other computer based digital audio technologies.

Return to Computer Audio Asylum

Message Sort: Post Order or Asylum Reverse Threaded

Burn-In track?

176.198.233.174
Posted on August 21, 2016 at 23:43:18
soundchekk
Audiophile

Posts: 2426
Joined: July 11, 2007
 Havn't been looking in the subject of proper system burn-in for some years.

Are these tools still be used??

If so,

I'm wondering if anybody can refer me to a "state-of-the-art" burn/break-in
track download.

Thx.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

blog latest >> The Audio Streaming Series - tuning kit pCP

 

Hide full thread outline!
    ...
RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 22, 2016 at 00:18:57
fmak
Audiophile

Posts: 13158
Location: Kent
Joined: June 1, 2002
 Yes, they work. For me, some seem to work better than others but the best for me is a freeby from a magazine HiFiChoice. Some expensives ones are only so so. Stereophile used to sell a disc as well.

I don't know of a good free source but the discs are not expensive if you look. A detuned FM signal is sometimes used for burn in.

For demagnetising goto

http://www.stereophile.com/content/demagnetizing-tracks-does-it-really-works-1

Such tracks can have a significant 'clean-up' effect.

 

Update 1, posted on August 22, 2016 at 03:11:26
soundchekk
Audiophile

Posts: 2426
Joined: July 11, 2007
 By now I came across

Taralabs Burn In - http://www.taralabs.com/cascade-noise-burn-in

And was hinted to

iFi Burn In - http://ifi-audio.com/audio_blog/burn-in-like-a-pro/

I also read somewhere someone adding a "silence" track to the playlist giving the system a short break once in a while.
I thought that might be a good idea. ;)

I quickly generated a 60 second silence.flac track with sox:

sox -n -r 44100 -C 0 -c 2 silence.flac trim 0.0 60.0

FMAK brought up a DEMAG track. As a matter of fact I own the Densen Demagic track. I might add that one as final cleanup.

Somebody else mentioned Classical Orchestra due to dynamics and frequency mix/range.

So far so good. There's a certain logic attached to every approach. Discussing differences of different approaches will probably be ending nowhere.

Bottom Line. We eat what's on the table. The playlist is fixed for now and covers it all.

Let the game begin. May the odds be in my favor. ;)



-----------------------------------------------------------------

blog latest >> The Audio Streaming Series - tuning kit pCP

 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 22, 2016 at 04:46:44
soundchekk
Audiophile

Posts: 2426
Joined: July 11, 2007
 Thx.

Is the HifiChoice track available for download?

I do own a Densen DeMagic track.



-----------------------------------------------------------------

blog latest >> The Audio Streaming Series - tuning kit pCP

 

I use the Ayre IBE, posted on August 22, 2016 at 10:00:25
E-Stat
Audiophile

Posts: 37666
Joined: May 12, 2000
Contributor
  Since: April 5, 2002
 Irrational, But Efficacious disk containing a series of different tracks designed for that purpose.

It's not downloadable, but highly recommended. You can get a copy from a range of vendors including Amazon.

 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 22, 2016 at 18:00:17
PAR
 This is just to point out that for anyone using active louspeakers the demagnetiser tracks will not work. You should be able to work out why.

 

Good Suggestion..., posted on August 23, 2016 at 01:36:24
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004

 

RE: I use the Ayre IBE, posted on August 23, 2016 at 07:10:43
Beetlemania
Audiophile

Posts: 1217
Location: Utah
Joined: November 1, 2003
 I use it (track 1) more as a weekly tune-up to get better SQ. Not sure whether it tunes the system, my ears, or my imagination but it does make for better listening. For burn-in of new components I mostly just play music.

 

RE: I use the Ayre IBE, posted on August 23, 2016 at 08:23:10
E-Stat
Audiophile

Posts: 37666
Joined: May 12, 2000
Contributor
  Since: April 5, 2002
 Since I've ripped all my CDs to the music server, it is very easy for me to use it across all systems.

Even Charles Hansen will honestly tell you he doesn't really understand how or why it works - just that it does!

 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 23, 2016 at 20:31:01
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46302
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 Please explain.

 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 24, 2016 at 02:17:02
PAR
 It's because demagnetising tracks use a sweep tone to demagnetise using hysterisis. As the electronic crossover in an active system blocks part of the tone sent to each of the amplifiers anything in the circuit beyond the electronic crossover will not be demagnetiised.

Burn in is different as it is not necessary to maintain an uninterrupted sweep of frequencies to work.

 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 24, 2016 at 09:48:09
fmak
Audiophile

Posts: 13158
Location: Kent
Joined: June 1, 2002
 Unfortunately not; it was a long time ago. But I was told that it was from Isotek.

Doesn't the Densen disc offer burn in? Otherwise why not just record white noise and repeat wide spectrum classical at high sample rates?

 

OT Question on Pi ................, posted on August 24, 2016 at 14:40:07
Cut-Throat
Audiophile

Posts: 18286
Location: Minneapolis - St.Paul Area
Joined: September 2, 2000
Contributor
  Since: May 16, 2021
 I often hear you recommending the Raspberry Pi and how you have it 'tweaked' to sound excellent.

I bought one about 5 years ago or so. (Mine is 512MB Project Board Model B) and I got it to work running LMS. Today I downloaded PicorePlayer and am running it from the USB ports into my USB DAC. It sounds pretty good.

It seems that have been some upgrades to it in the last few years and I thought I may try it again. Do you have any recommendations on what to buy and tweak to beat a Squeezebox Touch and rival other streamers. Are there any links on the net that you recommend that may describe this?

Thanks in advance and also for your toolkit for the SBT...




 

RE: OT Question on Pi ................, posted on August 24, 2016 at 22:03:47
soundchekk
Audiophile

Posts: 2426
Joined: July 11, 2007
 My setup is following:

* Raspberry PI2 (No PI3)
* iFi iPower 5V
* MamboBerry Lite - HAT DAC (just released)
* PiCorePlayer 3.0

This IMO beats a Touch already and will cost you around 150€/$.

I would not recommend to run the LMS server on the PI.

If you want a standalone machine you might have a look at Moode or Volumio or Archphile.

I would not run a 1st generation PI.

With a HAT DAC you get away from all the USB mess. S'been a relieve for me.

There's tons of info on the net how to tweak the PI a little.

Good luck.



-----------------------------------------------------------------

blog latest >> The Audio Streaming Series - tuning kit pCP

 

Thanks for Comments ............................., posted on August 25, 2016 at 14:54:01
Cut-Throat
Audiophile

Posts: 18286
Location: Minneapolis - St.Paul Area
Joined: September 2, 2000
Contributor
  Since: May 16, 2021
 "My setup is following:

* Raspberry PI2 (No PI3)
* iFi iPower 5V
* MamboBerry Lite - HAT DAC (just released)
* PiCorePlayer 3.0

This IMO beats a Touch already and will cost you around 150€/$."

"I would not recommend to run the LMS server on the PI."

I misspoke.... I am running LMS on another computer on the network. The Pi just appears as another Player. (which is what I meant). I am also running Picoreplayer 3.0

***********************************************************************
"I would not run a 1st generation PI."

Why Not? - Is the hardware inferior? It sounds fine.
*************************************************************************
"With a HAT DAC you get away from all the USB mess. S'been a relieve for me."

I'd like to use my own external DAC..... Wouldn't I be better off just getting a HiFiBerry Digi+ ?

***********************************************************************


"There's tons of info on the net how to tweak the PI a little."

Yes, I have been reading it alot....Most of it quite contradictory... That's the reason for this post, trying to sort things out.





 

RE: Burn-In track? and Demagantising ones, posted on August 25, 2016 at 20:24:52
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46302
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 Ah, makes sense. Thanks.

 

Page processed in 0.021 seconds.

[ Top Top of Page ] [ Contact Us ] [ Support/Wish List ] [ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
[ General ] [ Speakers ] [ Tubes ] [ Vinyl ] [ Digital ] [ Hi-Rez ] [ Video Asylum ] [ Cables ] [ Tweaks/DIY ] [ Music ] [ Films ]