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Details?, posted on July 22, 2016 at 21:31:44
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	Please? First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: It's alive!, posted on July 22, 2016 at 21:41:17
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46280 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	OMG the little box works, or OMG it sounds soooo good?

The latter, posted on July 23, 2016 at 06:21:39
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37584 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	More to come, but it seems to have more refined top and deeper soundstage. Less "hi-fi" sounding. I have playback system on random song mix as both recommend some burn in.

RE: It's alive!, posted on July 23, 2016 at 07:23:58
Isaak J. Garvey Industry Professional Posts: 1207 Location: Hollywod, CA Joined: January 7, 2016	But wait...we had "experts" and know it alls telling us it could be no better than an SBT, or a $100 DIY, or a Pi, or a laptop! You must be hallucinating! Try again!

RE: "we had "experts...", posted on July 23, 2016 at 07:41:21
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	I said no such thing! ;-) First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

Not at all surprised...., posted on July 23, 2016 at 07:44:18
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	Heard it at a fellow inmate's place, in a VERY good sounding system a few weeks ago and it sounded great. Didn't do an A:B but from the overall quality and sound of his system I'm inclined to take his word for it that it is a big step up from SBT. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: "we had "experts...", posted on July 23, 2016 at 07:53:35
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46280 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	I don't recall anyone bashing the mRendu. We did ask Music Industry Professional Isaak J. Garvey (P) several times to give us a comparison of his microRendu vs his $17,000 Aurender and $6000 Antipodes DX Reference but nothing. We can only assume that he was too embarrassed to tell us that his $640 microRendu performs as well as his megabuck toys!

Or that he really doesn't own a, posted on July 23, 2016 at 08:05:50
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	$17,000 Aurender or a $6000 Antipodes DX Reference? Could be. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: Or that he really doesn't own a, posted on July 23, 2016 at 08:07:12
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46280 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	or even the microRendu!

Conceptually , posted on July 23, 2016 at 08:40:44

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I've always found the design inherently desirable - a small renderer using the highest quality parts crafted by a talented designer for a single task. Put a massive power supply behind it.

My question has always been to what degree will it improve upon what remains a remarkable device. I was willing to experiment.

RE: Conceptually , posted on July 23, 2016 at 08:55:57
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	"a small renderer using the highest quality parts crafted by a talented designer for a single task..." All of the above. If I had enough smarts left in my aging brain to deal with LMS, etc., I would be tempted, as the house is now fulling wired with ethernet. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

Yes, posted on July 23, 2016 at 09:12:07

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I've spend a couple more hours this morning listening further. As compared with SBT / Welbourne Labs linear:

1. Better first octave response. Always thought soundtrack from Phantom of the Opera lacked oomph in the organ pedal.

2. You hear more of the recorded space. Whether it is more true hall ambience or being more aware of that instrument/voice in isolation.

3. Tails of upper harmonics from cymbals, xylophones and finger chimes hang and linger in the air. And linger...

4. Improved dynamic contrasts.

The little sucker can really bring out the emotion. :)

Pics, posted on July 23, 2016 at 09:21:08

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I was amazed at how diminutive the uRendu is as much as how massive and heavy the HD-Plex linear is. The red box is the 5V/3A Welborne Labs linear used for the Touch. What you cannot see from this perspective is that the HD is also twice as tall. Both have R-core trannies, but the size difference is considerable.

I'm using direct connections for both the Audiophilio converter and the uRendu directly behind the DAC. Each is supported by isolation pads to eliminate potential connector tension and have oriented the unit vertically following John Swenson's recommendation for optimum cooling.

RE: Yes, posted on July 23, 2016 at 09:30:52
Isaak J. Garvey Industry Professional Posts: 1207 Location: Hollywod, CA Joined: January 7, 2016	No, you have it ALL WRONG! It is an over hyped piece of junk, with no return policy, with a lot of buzz..HUNDREDS will appear on Audiogon shortly. The designers are liars who are using cheap parts and claiming custom design and in house engineering. You can't handle the TRUTH! :) You heard here from the world renown experts on AA.

RE: Pics, posted on July 23, 2016 at 09:42:34
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46280 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Nice pics. It describes your system w/o requiring 2000 words. ;-)

Thanks...., posted on July 23, 2016 at 10:34:03
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	USB to S/PDIF converter as well, I see. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

Great news...., posted on July 23, 2016 at 10:43:41
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	Especially as LMS has a lot of add-on software for streaming TITAL and even QOBUX, or so I am led to believe. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

I'm not the expert there, posted on July 23, 2016 at 10:56:11
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37584 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	as the only service wifey and I stream (primarily for our cars) is SiriusXM.

Yep, posted on July 23, 2016 at 10:57:08
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37584 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	The ARC DAC supports both Win and OSX environments, but requires the use of drivers.

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