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My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

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Posted on August 13, 2015 at 22:50:42

AbeCollins
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My UpTone USB REGEN arrived late this evening around dinner time, and then we had company over so I didn't get to play with it much. I hooked it up and it works, but I haven't compared my system sound with and without it. More to follow probably after the weekend.

In the mean time I wanted to see what it 'looks like' in the USB device tree and I was able to determine that the USB hub chip in the REGEN is made by SMSC. Maybe someone already discovered this.

The screen shots below show the USB device tree on my Mac for my Ayre QB-9 DSD DAC without the REGEN and with the REGEN.

Without REGEN

With REGEN

It's smaller than I expected as it sits on my calculator for relative size comparison

The included power supply is pretty hefty and much larger than the REGEN

Attached to my Ayre DAC USB port with a small box under the REGEN for support

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RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

doak

09:13:59 08/16/15

Jitterbug Setup Guide

oldmkvi

10:36:05 08/16/15

RE: Jitterbug Setup Guide

ahendler

16:20:46 08/16/15

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RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

doak

09:13:59 08/16/15

Jitterbug Setup Guide

oldmkvi

10:36:05 08/16/15

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ahendler

16:20:46 08/16/15

RE: Jitterbug Setup Guide

Sprezza Tura

11:07:21 08/16/15

I'm a Lunatic alright, but more of a Mainstream Loonie-

oldmkvi

11:31:20 08/16/15

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

YashN

08:48:17 08/15/15

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AbeCollins

09:00:41 08/15/15

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YashN

19:58:37 08/15/15

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

AbeCollins

22:05:55 08/15/15

Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series

Jon L

17:22:49 08/14/15

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FSonicSmith

06:44:14 08/17/15

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Bob_C

10:54:02 08/17/15

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FSonicSmith

11:08:37 08/17/15

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AbeCollins

18:15:23 08/17/15

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doak

15:46:22 08/19/15

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doak

10:09:34 08/22/15

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doak

10:02:27 08/23/15

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Dynobot

16:46:04 08/14/15

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

AbeCollins

23:45:25 08/14/15

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived

jdm1

13:02:45 08/16/15

If you DO hear a difference...

Ivan303

06:45:43 08/14/15

RE: If you DO hear a difference...

ahendler

11:59:28 08/14/15

I'll certainly second that!

Mag4Life

20:07:02 08/14/15

If you DO hear a difference..., posted on August 14, 2015 at 06:45:43
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	and the difference is an improvement, to report on the differences you hear between the 'plug' and the 'short' USB cable supplied with the device. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: If you DO hear a difference..., posted on August 14, 2015 at 11:59:28

ahendler
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Posts: 5151
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I have had my Regen for about a month. Today I received the Audioquest Jitterbug. So what I have now is the following
MacBook Pro running Yosemite $1200
Audioquest Jitterbug $50
LightHarmonic Lightspeed 10g USB cable $999
Uptone audio Regen p0wered by a Hifi 2 way linear power supply DC-2 $175 $62
Metrum Hex or Teredac Chamelion Dacs $3200 $580

The Regen alone or the Jitterbug alone both increase the clarity and richness of the sound
The two together make an overall increase in the richness and resolution which is very easy to hear. Since these devices are very reasonably priced if you use USB one of each will definitely be a worthwhile investment. I included prices above to show how the cost of these two tweaks is small compared to the other components in the digital chain. Looking forward to Abes experience with the Regen
Alan

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 14, 2015 at 16:46:04
Dynobot	Is that a calculator...did you rob the Smithsonian? Talk about contrast old vs new....

Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 14, 2015 at 17:22:49

Jon L
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I get very nice SQ improvement with this cheap DIY tweak

I'll certainly second that!, posted on August 14, 2015 at 20:07:02
Mag4Life Audiophile Posts: 154 Joined: June 28, 2005	Great observation and I concur, Sir.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 14, 2015 at 23:45:25

AbeCollins
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Yup, my ~30 year old HP 11C calculator still works great!

The real deal HP-11C

HP-11C on my iPhone but I prefer the tactile keys on the 'real deal'

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 15, 2015 at 08:48:17
YashN Audiophile Posts: 4 Location: Eastern Joined: January 15, 2015	" I wanted to see what it 'looks like' in the USB device tree and I was able to determine that the USB hub chip in the REGEN is made by SMSC." Already known as revealed by the manufacturer themselves. Same chip as in the Wyrd.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 15, 2015 at 09:00:41
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46302 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	I'd be curious to know which specific SMSC chip it is. Do you know or do you have a link to the info? There are several variations of the SMSC USB chip. Thanks.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 15, 2015 at 19:58:37
YashN Audiophile Posts: 4 Location: Eastern Joined: January 15, 2015	A search for that on the computeraudiophile forum should yield the result.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 15, 2015 at 22:05:55
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46302 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Found it. Thanks. It's an older gen chip.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 16, 2015 at 09:13:59
doak Audiophile Posts: 636 Location: New Orleans Joined: June 4, 2000	Count me in too. Regen in system for 3 weeks. AQ JB in yesterday. Certainly work in a complementary fashion.

Jitterbug Setup Guide, posted on August 16, 2015 at 10:36:05

oldmkvi
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Posts: 10583
Joined: April 12, 2002

It says not use them in series, only parallel.
Doesn't seem to be how Inmates are using them.

http://www.musicdirect.com/documents/pdf/AAQJBUG.pdf

RE: Jitterbug Setup Guide, posted on August 16, 2015 at 11:07:21
Sprezza Tura Audiophile Posts: 4585 Location: New York City Joined: August 24, 2012	AQ clearly says a maximum of 2 jittrbugs should be used but the lunatic fringe and AQ shills will tell you that 4, 8, heck, even 16 are better.

I'm a Lunatic alright, but more of a Mainstream Loonie-, posted on August 16, 2015 at 11:31:20
oldmkvi Audiophile Posts: 10583 Joined: April 12, 2002	I only have one JB, for use w/Dragonfly for Finale Playback. My Dac is Firewire.

RE: My UpTone USB REGEN finally arrived, posted on August 16, 2015 at 13:02:45
jdm1 Audiophile Posts: 16 Joined: October 22, 2002	Mine still works great too.

RE: Jitterbug Setup Guide, posted on August 16, 2015 at 16:20:46
ahendler Audiophile Posts: 5151 Location: San Antonio, Texas Joined: January 24, 2003	Inmates are putting two regens in series but I am not aware of anyone putting Jitterbugs in series Alan

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 17, 2015 at 06:44:14
FSonicSmith Audiophile Posts: 528 Location: Midwest Joined: February 18, 2009	Jon L, if you would be willing to specify the parts you used to assemble this, it would be most appreciated. With some time, I could probably assemble the parts from the PartsExpress website but you could make it much easier!

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 17, 2015 at 10:54:02
Bob_C Audiophile Posts: 2667 Location: NY Joined: July 31, 2000	You can check out Ebay. These will work.There are allot more choices out there. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Black-Plastic-Battery-Storage-Case-Box-Holder-for-2x18650-with-6-Wire-Leads-/330966203625?hash=item4d0f1f7ce9 http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-DC-5-5-x-2-1mm-Power-Male-Jack-Adapter-Plug-Cable-Connector-for-CCTV-LED-/151602225743?hash=item234c32624f

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 17, 2015 at 11:08:37
FSonicSmith Audiophile Posts: 528 Location: Midwest Joined: February 18, 2009	Thanks. Parts ordered.

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 17, 2015 at 18:15:23

AbeCollins
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Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
Since: February 2, 2002

Don't forget the batteries and charger.

Battery Charger

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 19, 2015 at 15:46:22
doak Audiophile Posts: 636 Location: New Orleans Joined: June 4, 2000	My parts for the battery power supply are starting to arrive. I've heard said/read that a cap across the terminals can be helpful in smoothing things out. Anyone have info on what type/value might work best in this application?

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 22, 2015 at 10:09:34
doak Audiophile Posts: 636 Location: New Orleans Joined: June 4, 2000	Anyone (else) have the batt supply up & going??

RE: Try two 18650 Lithium batteries in series, posted on August 23, 2015 at 10:02:27
doak Audiophile Posts: 636 Location: New Orleans Joined: June 4, 2000	Streaming TIDAL today with Regen AND Aries on battery power - very nice indeed. A sense of quietude prevails behind and between the musi.

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