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Wyred 4 Sound modified Sonos Connect in my system

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Posted on May 13, 2015 at 16:33:33
bullethead
 compared to stock, f*cking unbelievable ...

No comparison, at close to $1k this is awesome. I use the Deezer Elite streaming FLAC streaming service exclusively, very nice, living the dream.

Hear much more unheard notes and music, detail, bass is real, drums are tighter, more realistic presentation compared to the stock Sonos Connect.

Out of the box, very nice, this is not a buyers hype, this is a nice upgrade, I recommend. Just IMHO.

 

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Glad you like..., posted on May 13, 2015 at 21:31:55
DAVID
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 ...the Wyred. I have their mAmps and love them. I think they are a solid company w/ great products.

 

Cool, - thanks for your post and information, posted on May 14, 2015 at 09:50:22
Sordidman
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 I think that it's so much of a better way to go to have an audio designer/manufacturer, modify and improve a device made for audio playback: than have a consumer modify and strip down a multi-function, noisebox, - computer.


"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"

 

RE: Cool, - thanks for your post and information, posted on May 14, 2015 at 17:35:36
bullethead
 for what you speak I can't say anything.

I went the Squeezebox route when they were slimdevices, many years ago, went through all iterations, since most of my stuff is only available at CD quality Sonos is fine.

I have a bluesound node for high res WAV and a windows 8.1 laptop / foobar2000 for DSD using an Aune S16 DSD DAC.

I got it all, just wish someone would re-standardize music, too many choices, and no we don't need physical disks. I am happy paying $10 a month for s*hit.

 

Are you using your own wifi or the SONOS Bridge?, posted on May 14, 2015 at 19:13:27
Ivan303
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 My SONOS seems to work well anywhere in the house without problems using the bridge.

I really need something to stream QOBUZ to my main system, as the room isn't wired for Ethernet and the Ethernet through AC Lines is causing noise in the tube preamp when data is flowing through it to my AirPlay enabled network player.

But as I have TIDAL on the SONOS, I suppose I could stream it to the main system using the SONOS Bridge and the SONOS Connect.

If I can't find what I want on TIDAL (TIDAL search for Classical sucks) I could drop TIDAL and sign up for DEEZER.

Also could go with used Squeezebox touch off of ebay, if I thought I could figure out how to get QOBUZ to work on it.

Could have a few years ago when I had more active brain cells, but... :-(






First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Re: Aune, posted on May 15, 2015 at 09:17:08
Sordidman
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 The Aune doesn't do redbook level?

I would be really curious to know how the Aune + computer compares to the new, modified, Sonos.

Thanks again for your posts and info....

"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"

 

Re: Aune, posted on May 15, 2015 at 10:40:24
dbphd
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 The price seems to be $890 if you buy the Sonos Connect from Wyred 4-Sound.

db

 

ethernet, posted on May 15, 2015 at 14:49:13
bullethead
 I have Ethernet jacks in every room of my house. Wired up.

 

Re: Aune, posted on May 15, 2015 at 14:52:06
bullethead
 Sonos and Aune.

I use the Sonos for redbook. Redbook on the Aune from a PC sounds inferior.

 

yep, posted on May 15, 2015 at 14:58:16
bullethead
 I ordered overnight shipping.

It is great stuff. Not sure if they have low overhead or make it rather quickly. Took about 5 days to get it.

 

That may explain why it sounds good..., posted on May 15, 2015 at 16:24:41
Ivan303
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 or not.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Not for you, posted on May 15, 2015 at 16:39:55
bullethead
 the wireless doesn't have a strong signal after modification, I could not setup the wireless connection with my iPad, that low signal. So I suggest if you get this thing to get yourself a couple of switches, run Ethernet under your carpet all around the house, a couple of switches and you will then be cool.

 

RE: Glad you like..., posted on May 15, 2015 at 16:49:11
bullethead
 it seems that way , I could see myself getting their DSD DAC in the future, as my Bel Canto DAC3 is getting long in the tooth.

 

Litening room is on the thrid floor loft..., posted on May 15, 2015 at 16:52:36
Ivan303
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 a floor away from the office with the hub.

When you say wireless doesn't work well after the mod, are you saying wireless with home WiFi or the SONOS Bridge?




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: Litening room is on the thrid floor loft..., posted on May 15, 2015 at 17:03:44
bullethead



i would honestly advise against wireless completely. I had my iPad a foot away and it didn't see the sonos during setup. Lucky I have network switched all over the place going around 3 floors. It's f*cking radio shack in my house if you know what I mean. I wired the house with Ethernet, netgear switches on a 35/35mbps fiber connection.

Could also be that the wireless turns off when you plug in Ethernet , W4S recommends the sonos being close to the WAP. I will not test it however. I hate wireless.

 

I currently use the SONOS bridge with a SONOS 3 in the kitchen..., posted on May 15, 2015 at 18:09:38
Ivan303
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 Works like a champ and yes, I have TIDAL running on it and it works perfect.

Too perfect as my wife plays internet radio on it all day! :-(

But I need some way of getting QOBUZ/TIDAL/DEEZER up to the main system without lugging my computer upstairs and hooking it up to the streamer with a 10 meter USB cable.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Me too?, posted on May 15, 2015 at 20:16:05
raingerz
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 So should I get my Connect modified too? (I'm currently enjoying Deezer Elite as well). There have been lots of raves for the modification, although I also recall a post somewhere that there isn't a huge difference if you already have decent jitter reduction treatment.

I have the stock Connect-->Blue Jeans coax cable-->Monarchy DIP (jitter box)-->Cardas Lightning coax cable-->JISCO jitter attenuator-->MSB Link III (with upgraded parts from Channel Islands, upsampling board). Also using a Monolithic power supply and a Pangea power cable for the MSB.

The Connect is a big improvement over the Pioneer DV-525, which had been a fairly decent CD transport.

 

read this article, posted on May 16, 2015 at 03:34:24
bullethead
 This article linked below had a great deal on helping me pull the trigger on this one. The equipment used is known to be revealing, I noticed a night and day difference with my humble Bel Canto system.

also here's the list of modifications wyred 4 sound does to the sonos according to their site

Upgraded SONOS Connect Features:
High-end sample rate converter made by TI
Low jitter clock with less than .5ps jitter
Low noise power supply for the clock and SR
Micro processor controller
Input & output digital buffers

 

RE: I currently use the SONOS bridge with a SONOS 3 in the kitchen..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 03:50:19
bullethead
 ok, get the stock Sonos Connect and get a reclocker.

I was going to get the separate reclocker wyred for sound makes first (I think it is about $400), but noticed the mod uses low noise power supply so I went with the mod because I'm dedicated to Sonos now. The system is magnificent, if your wife uses it that is an idea about how great the system is. Not to knock on your wife (I don't have a wife, I wish I did), but women tend to be impatient with things that don't go smooth (could also be why I don't have a wife, haha).

:)

I put a link to the reclocker w4s makes below:

 

OK, it says I can hook up an Apple TV to it..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 08:05:24
Ivan303
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 If that's the case, an I am assuming that it's the optical output of the Apple TV of which they speak, does that mean an Apple TV will work as an AirPlay receiver for audio only (no video)?

At $99 Apple TV might be the best way to get QOBUZ up to my main system via WiFi?

Then I'd have to buy a TV for the listening room. :-(




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: read this article, posted on May 16, 2015 at 12:49:39
raingerz
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 Thanks for the informative link. I'm probably leaning toward trying a modded Connect in the next few months. By that time, my system will probably break the world record for jitter reduction. :-)

 

jitter question, posted on May 16, 2015 at 14:19:01
bullethead
 I just have been playing around with the optical and spdif outputs, I like both, but the SPDIF seems smoother, not as in my face. More listenable, why would the seem better on SPDIF?

They also upgraded the SPDIF output jack too on it, more hefty than the stock one.

 

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