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Do you use a router ? which one ?

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Posted on October 15, 2014 at 06:30:05

beppe61
Audiophile

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Joined: January 29, 2004

Hi
i would like to get some more information about wireless routers
What do you use ? what kind of specifications i should check ?
2.4 or 5 GHz for instance ?
Thanks a lot
Kind regards,
bg

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RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

Hi-Fi Hokie

07:14:15 10/23/14

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

beppe61

07:35:57 10/23/14

I have ordered this one

beppe61

23:13:47 10/15/14

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RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

Hi-Fi Hokie

07:14:15 10/23/14

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

beppe61

07:35:57 10/23/14

I have ordered this one

beppe61

23:13:47 10/15/14

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Roseval

04:14:25 10/16/14

RE: I have ordered this one

beppe61

07:49:28 10/16/14

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Roseval

08:12:26 10/16/14

RE: I have ordered this one

beppe61

09:44:32 10/16/14

Bill Way

21:02:58 10/15/14

beppe61

22:52:32 10/15/14

Bill Way

00:28:08 10/16/14

Bob_C

14:21:00 10/17/14

beppe61

07:53:43 10/16/14

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

AbeCollins

09:43:15 10/15/14

RE: Abe, why is a router intermittent?

amioutaline?

16:05:53 10/15/14

RE: Abe, why is a router intermittent?

AbeCollins

17:23:01 10/15/14

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?

beppe61

09:58:00 10/15/14

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AbeCollins

11:25:38 10/15/14

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beppe61

11:33:58 10/15/14

Mine's a bit dated...

Presto

08:28:20 10/15/14

RE: Mine's a bit dated...

beppe61

08:46:01 10/15/14

It's a word play - the tool pictured is also "router", but is a woodworking tool.

carcass93

09:32:08 10/15/14

RE: It's a word play - the tool pictured is also "router", but is a woodworking tool.

beppe61

10:03:52 10/15/14

Mine's a bit dated..., posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:28:20
Presto Audiophile Posts: 5957 Location: Canada Joined: November 10, 2004	... but it's still really fast... har har har

RE: Mine's a bit dated..., posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:46:01

beppe61
Audiophile

Posts: 4705
Joined: January 29, 2004

Hi what is that ?
I meant ... 2.4GHz or 5 GHz wireless transmission makes any difference ?
For instance ... this new generation streamers which standard do they use ?
I am using a very cheap modem/router but maybe some gains can be had with better equipment ?

Kind regards,
bg

It's a word play - the tool pictured is also "router", but is a woodworking tool., posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:32:08
carcass93 Audiophile Posts: 7181 Location: NJ Joined: September 20, 2006	As to your question - can't help, because, although I do use a router (some cheap old one), it's only to network the audio PC and the tablet, used as "remote control".

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:43:15

AbeCollins
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Location: USA
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I use the cable modem / wifi router that Comcast provides, along with 60 Mbps service. I could pay more for 100+ Mbps but don't need it.

Our wifi router does 2.4GHz and 5GHz but in our home I find 2.4GHz to perform better.... or at least goes further with better coverage toward the property boundries. We don't have a lot of detectable wifi activity nearby on 2.4GHz so there are plenty of available unused channels. YMMV so it's up to you experiment.

There are so many excellent wifi routers available these days so unless you have specific needs (like online gaming), almost any decent brand should do.

Top 10 Wifi Routers per PC Mag online 2014........

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:58:00
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Hi and thank you sincerely for the valuable advice An thanks for the very helpful link as well I was overestimating the requirements for AV signals streaming. Issue closed. Kind regards, bg

RE: It's a word play - the tool pictured is also "router", but is a woodworking tool., posted on October 15, 2014 at 10:03:52
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Hi i see ! No woodworks here ... at max some Ikea products assembling i understand now that audio wireless streaming is not a very demanding task Thanks a lot Kind regards, bg

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 11:25:38

AbeCollins
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Location: USA
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For AV streaming a hardwired Ethernet connection is usually more consistent and reliable but wifi will work well depending on your bandwidth needs and signal strength.

If you stream high quality video (HD movies and such) wifi could be 'border line' but again depending on factors like signal strength and channel congestion in your area. Only way to find out is to try, then experiment with equipment positioning for best results.

Oh, and if you're streaming from a service like Netflix, Amazon Prime Movies, etc., performance will also depend on your internet speed. Lousy internet service from your provider combined with a fantastic wifi router will still leave you unimpressed.

Good luck!

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 11:33:58
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Hi and thanks again I think that i will buy one of the routers tested in the link you kindly provided The prices are reasonable after all The WD unit in particular seems to have a good performance/price ratio And it is also dual band so i can try both and listen ... and see Kind regards, bg

RE: Abe, why is a router intermittent?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 16:05:53

amioutaline?

Every now and then the Belkin Router dashboard comes up instead of the web page with the can't connect message.

Other sites can't be opened even on a different tab BUT once the Belkin message Tab is closed, everything else is fine.

I had Charter out to the house and their guy thoroughly checked everything including replacing all the connectors He didn't have a lot of good things to say about this $60 router but it is paid for.

86 the Belkin?

RE: Abe, why is a router intermittent?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 17:23:01
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46277 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	I really couldn't tell you what's wrong. Could be the router... or possibly the router's power supply depending on how old it is. I once had a Linksys router that I absolutely loved and then it started acting up. I replaced it's wall wart power supply and it worked great for another couple years before it was time to upgrade to newer technology. Sorry, not sure what to tell you.

Checkpoint, posted on October 15, 2014 at 21:02:58

Bill Way
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Posts: 1884
Location: Toms River NJ
Joined: May 28, 2012
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Since: December 14, 2012

Their internet appliances are, at the bottom of their range, routers combined with hardware/software firewalls. They have about a 100% market share of the Fortune 500 firewall market, which means: 1) their security is very good, but; 2) they are a huge target. Their stuff is expensive and can be a PITA to configure, but so far, at least, they work well. You can also configure them to really lock down what can go in or out. One feature is a weekly email summarizing traffic to/from your device, so you can see who/what tried to get in, and what outgoing connections were blocked. So, if you are paranoid (i.e. realistic) about the evil out there that will some day breach your defenses, put them on your list.

WW
"Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

RE: Checkpoint, posted on October 15, 2014 at 22:52:32
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Hi and thanks for the helpful advice But i am not an expert. Could you provide me some link to the equipment you mention ? Yes i value privacy and security a lot indeed. So i am very interested in preserving them. Thanks again. Kind regards, bg

I have ordered this one , posted on October 15, 2014 at 23:13:47

beppe61
Audiophile

Posts: 4705
Joined: January 29, 2004

Hi ... i could not resist and i have ordered this one here
It should be a nice step up in comparison with my cheap one
and also a 5GHz usb adapter by Tp- Link
In this way i should be able to test both the 2.4 and the 5 GHz mode
It is a dual band one
Thanks to All very much indeed

Kind regards,
bg

http://www.asus.com/no/Networking/RTN66U/

RE: Checkpoint, posted on October 16, 2014 at 00:28:08

Bill Way
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Posts: 1884
Location: Toms River NJ
Joined: May 28, 2012
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Since: December 14, 2012

checkpoint.com

Look at their small business category. Their 600 series router/firewall goes for $400-$1100 depending on features and number of users, plus an annual fee. There are third party dealers, and I've seen Checkpoint units at Amazon, ebay, et al. BTW, their "home" category is antivirus software of no particular distinction.

The weekly report I get from my device includes summaries of the following, and I can drill down for details on each:
blocked attacks
blocked attacked services
blocked outgoing connections
blocked connection attempts by reason
blocked web sites
allowed web sites
viruses blocked by email filtering service
connections blocked by VStream antivirus (their optional antivirus service)
potential spam detected device updates

Do plan on something of a learning curve. For their newer stuff they have simplified the configuration, which is great. But when you can't get to a site you want, you'll need to know why and how to change it. It's not rocket science, but does take a little learning if you are new to network security.

BTW, Checkpoint's customer support is atrocious - about on the level of Time Warner or ConEdison. If you do need their support, I recommend putting a martini glass in the freezer. It will have plenty of time to chill, and you'll need it when you're done.

If you're scared enough, you'll pay and you'll do it and you'll hope you don't have to deal with them too much. (Just once for me in ten years, though that was more than enough.)

WW
"Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

checkpoint.com

RE: I have ordered this one , posted on October 16, 2014 at 04:14:25
Roseval Audiophile Posts: 1845 Joined: March 31, 2008	I use a Asus RT-AC68U Supports N but also AC Although I live in a apartment building and my PC sees 20 or more WiFi networks, performance is good, drop out are rare. It has a DMZ (geuest network) hence I can give any visitor access to the internet without having them on my LAN Good web UI Large data transfers are not as fast as over a wire (my PC doesn't feature AC) The Well Tempered Computer

RE: I have ordered this one , posted on October 16, 2014 at 07:49:28

beppe61
Audiophile

Posts: 4705
Joined: January 29, 2004

Hi and thanks for the reply
Yes ... the Asus RT-AC68U must be quite better
Actually quite top for home use
Maybe next Christmas ...

One question ... you say " my PC doesn't feature AC "
do you mean the standard 802.11ac ?
You can try a usb wireless adapter

Kind regards,
bg

http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-GMYLE-Wireless-Dual-Band-802-1

RE: Checkpoint, posted on October 16, 2014 at 07:53:43
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Hi and thanks for the reply uhm ... this is really serious i will think about it Thanks again Kind regards, bg

RE: I have ordered this one , posted on October 16, 2014 at 08:12:26
Roseval Audiophile Posts: 1845 Joined: March 31, 2008	do you mean the standard 802.11ac ? Yes, a PC without AC is indeed a bit confusing :) The Well Tempered Computer

RE: I have ordered this one , posted on October 16, 2014 at 09:44:32
beppe61 Audiophile Posts: 4705 Joined: January 29, 2004	Thanks again I think it is overkill anyway because a lot of high end streamers use the 2.4 GHz freq and they sound very good Besides the more i think about it the more i believe that i should keep internet and audio separated Internet is full of malware, viruses ... bad stuff Kind regards, bg

RE: Checkpoint, posted on October 17, 2014 at 14:21:00
Bob_C Audiophile Posts: 2667 Location: NY Joined: July 31, 2000	Checkpoint is way overkill and overpriced for a home. The router he purchased is actually exelent.

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 23, 2014 at 07:14:15
Hi-Fi Hokie Audiophile Posts: 120 Location: Hillsborough, NC Joined: April 19, 2005	I've had good link with Linksys units - my current N one has never had any issues, and I gave my older G model to a friend who's still using it. When I upgrade laptops next year, I'll probably get an AC-capable one. Jim J.

RE: Do you use a router ? which one ?, posted on October 23, 2014 at 07:35:57

beppe61
Audiophile

Posts: 4705
Joined: January 29, 2004

Hi and thanks for the valuable advice
And yes ... i have understood now that even an only decent router should not be a bottleneck ... but ...
Now i have an asus 66 connected to a little Synology nas
As usb adapter i am using a Netgear WNDA4100 N900 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter
I have noticed that, for instance, the streaming of Netflix seems more steady now with the 5GHz wifi.
I have to compare soon two SW players, the one in the Nas and another one installed on the PC (i think i will try JRiver having read great things here)
I believe anyway in the nas solution with wifi streaming
I have just to experiment a little with the system and SWs
Thanks again.

Kind regards,
bg

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