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Packaging wav files for PC music archive?

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Posted on August 16, 2014 at 08:01:58

cootcraig
Audiophile

Posts: 116
Location: SE Colorado
Joined: October 23, 2005

I just recorded an LP into 2 wav files, one for each side. I want to
learn how to build a folder/file structure that will show album information
for common music player software.

What resources can you recommend for how to do this?

The freedb entry for the LP is linked.

http://www.freedb.org/freedb/misc/9506ad0c

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Update - switching external recorder to Sony PCMM10

cootcraig

14:27:09 08/20/14

RE: Packaging wav files for PC music archive?

rrob

11:25:39 08/16/14

I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure

Goober58

09:12:48 08/16/14

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Update - switching external recorder to Sony PCMM10

cootcraig

14:27:09 08/20/14

RE: Packaging wav files for PC music archive?

rrob

11:25:39 08/16/14

I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure

Goober58

09:12:48 08/16/14

RE: I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure

cootcraig

09:34:48 08/16/14

What OS are you using?

Goober58

10:04:38 08/16/14

RE: What OS are you using?

cootcraig

10:27:21 08/16/14

Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it

Goober58

11:35:46 08/16/14

RE: Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it

AbeCollins

13:40:49 08/16/14

RE: Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it

Goober58

08:31:43 08/18/14

Currently using DeaDBeeF as player.

cootcraig

08:06:35 08/16/14

Currently using DeaDBeeF as player., posted on August 16, 2014 at 08:06:35
cootcraig Audiophile Posts: 116 Location: SE Colorado Joined: October 23, 2005	FWIW, using DeaDBeeF. wav files show as Unknown artist - Unknown album

I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure, posted on August 16, 2014 at 09:12:48

Goober58

You can save your wav files but if you want meta data including album art it's not the best way to do it.

I do this -

Directory structure -

flac/artists/artist_name/album_name/track#_songname
flac/downloads/artist_name/album_name/track#_songname
flac/soundtracks/album_name/track#_songname
flac/compilations/album_name/track#_songname

After I make the original recording - 2 wav files one for each side I rip the cdrw with dbpoweramp cd ripper (converting it to flac) to a working directory. Then I use audacity to create tracks - name them and set the track #. Then mp3tag to fill in the remaining tag info - which actually creates the album. **Then dbpoweramp to convert and rename the files and build the directory stub album/track#_songname. Then I manually copy them into the above file structure. Repeat from ** for iTunes.

I have both an flac and an itunes directory tree. One could streamline the above procedure but I have found this to be the fastest way for me to get it done as I'm usually doing several records/cds/downloads at a time.

RE: I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure, posted on August 16, 2014 at 09:34:48

cootcraig
Audiophile

Posts: 116
Location: SE Colorado
Joined: October 23, 2005

> I use dbpoweramp to create the stub then manually copy it to the directory structure
> Posted by Goober58 (A) on August 16, 2014 at 09:12:48
> In Reply to: Packaging wav files for PC music archive? posted by cootcraig on August 16, 2014 at 08:01:58:
>

First off, thanks for the thoughtful reply, I'll need to study this.

> You can save your wav files but if you want meta data including album art it's not the best way to do it.

Yes, in some cases I would like to set up meta data including album art.
In all cases, I would like meta data for Artist/Album.

I guess it wasn't clear that I'm recording vinyl from a turntable with
a digital recorder.

>
> I do this -
>
> Directory structure -
>
> flac/artists/artist_name/album_name/track#_songname
> flac/downloads/artist_name/album_name/track#_songname
> flac/soundtracks/album_name/track#_songname
> flac/compilations/album_name/track#_songname
>
> After I make the original recording - 2 wav files one for each side
> I rip the cdrw with dbpoweramp cd ripper (converting it to flac) to a

"rip the cdrw" has me confused. I might write a cdrw on occasion, but
I'm not following this. I am starting with 2 wav files from the recorders
SD card.

> working directory. Then I use audacity to create tracks - name them and
> set the track #. Then mp3tag to fill in the remaining tag info - which
> actually creates the album. **Then dbpoweramp to convert and rename the
> files and build the directory stub album/track#_songname. Then I manually
> copy them into the above file structure. Repeat from ** for iTunes.
>
> I have both an flac and an itunes directory tree. One could streamline
> the above procedure but I have found this to be the fastest way for me to
> get it done as I'm usually doing several records/cds/downloads at a time.

What OS are you using?, posted on August 16, 2014 at 10:04:38
Goober58	I'm using Windows and am recording on a Tascam CD recorder. My "sides" start as two wav files on a CDRW.

RE: What OS are you using?, posted on August 16, 2014 at 10:27:21
cootcraig Audiophile Posts: 116 Location: SE Colorado Joined: October 23, 2005	> What OS are you using? > Posted by Goober58 (A) on August 16, 2014 at 10:04:38 > Using Linux. The recorder is a Zoom H4N, I read the wav files from the Zoom SD card. I'm planning to use Audacity for any edits that might be needed. > I'm using Windows and am recording on a Tascam CD recorder. My "sides" > start as two wav files on a CDRW.

RE: Packaging wav files for PC music archive?, posted on August 16, 2014 at 11:25:39

rrob
Audiophile

Posts: 762
Location: Kansas
Joined: February 7, 2010

I use vinyl studio to obtain track info and art. Outputs to various file formats. Can also burn to cd. 30 day trial. Imho at $29.95, it's a bargain.

I'm using a Tascam DA 3000, recording 24/96 to a CF card.

http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/

Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it, posted on August 16, 2014 at 11:35:46

Goober58

Interesting.

I'm really not sure what it is you are doing. It looks like you are setting your tracks and song titles with your recorder and it's creating this file for you so you can do further processing with it. Looks like you are asking the right question - you need to find something that can understand the work you've already completed.

I've always avoided to any work on the recorder - preferring instead to start with a single wav file then do the rest on the PC.

I'm not even sure Audacity works with wav files. My original work was done using Korg Audiogate software which did support wave files - though I don't know if there is a Linux version.

Maybe doing things your way will end up being easier in the long run.

RE: Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it, posted on August 16, 2014 at 13:40:49
AbeCollins Audiophile Posts: 46295 Location: USA Joined: June 22, 2001 Contributor Since: February 2, 2002	Audacity has the ability to add/edit metadata to tracks, at least when I used it on my AIFF rips, so I'm not sure what his problem is, unless it doesn't work on WAV.

RE: Looks like you asked the right question and I didn't answer it, posted on August 18, 2014 at 08:31:43

Goober58

So I tried it. I recorded a CD to disk and then tried to open it from Audacity in Windows 8. No go - says I need to rip the file to a format it understands, one of which is .wav.

Go to file manager and look at the CDRW and see a CDA file - length 1k. Look into properties and see it's a wave file with the appropriate content - much more than 1 k.

I suspect, but don't know for sure, the OP needs to know how to actually get access to the .wav information described by the header he has linked. The Korg and dBpoweramp software probably know how to read the .CDA file, extract the data then create the new .wav file on the Windows drive.

He hasn't given us an update yet but I'm hoping once he figures it out he lets us know the process on Linux. I looked briefly and as usual it kind of depends on what linux is being used. Most surely one could do it independently of UI from command window but who wants to work like that?

Update - switching external recorder to Sony PCMM10, posted on August 20, 2014 at 14:27:09

cootcraig
Audiophile

Posts: 116
Location: SE Colorado
Joined: October 23, 2005

After listening to a few line level recording on the Zoom H4N, I decided it was unusable, way too much noise. I sold the H4N and ordered a Sony PCMM10. The reports I found said it does a good job on recording line level. I will probably build a selectable pad box for this as well, because I liked setting level this way. The PCMM10 should arrive in 2 days.

I am trying to get a simple work flow. I like being able to use the portable recorder with no computer connection and then dump the wav file(s) to the computer. Having one file per LP side is fine with me. I'd like to make a script to generate mp3 files for some players and perhaps convert to flac and add album metadata.

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