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Blues And The Abstract Truth

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Posted on February 25, 2017 at 19:51:00
mr.bear
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Listening to this fine reissue of the '61 recording [Impulse!, IMP 11542, 1995 Remastered] and feeling it is one of the discs-to-die-for. I've heard 'Stolen Moments' a thousand times and played it maybe 100, but it sounds new and amazing every time I hear it. Amazing to find music with that much staying-power, beauty, clarity of expression - words fail me. And those cats could play and Rudy van Gelder could catch the sound.

The sound on this shinydisc is really quite fine, it creates beautiful feeling of standing with the band that allows me to transport myself to the back (of course... where the bass stands) and feel it all happen. Better than any of the vinyl copies that have passed through the Bearcave honestly.

 

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RE: Blues And The Abstract Truth, posted on February 25, 2017 at 22:12:45
jedrider
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I've always liked that album and it seems to have been a timeless performance that you wouldn't want to change anything. I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that Oliver Nelson was a studio musician that had to play exactly what is required. Could also be the all star cast of players.

 

Oliver Nelson was the arranger, posted on February 25, 2017 at 23:51:33
kavakidd
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sheez. Friend of my Dad's as well. Died way too soon
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

Other Readers Who Liked This..., posted on February 26, 2017 at 02:57:55
PAR
...Also liked " More Blues and the Abstract Truth" IMP 12122. Has the track " Blues and the Abstract Truth" on it just to confuse folk.

 

RE: Oliver Nelson was the arranger, posted on February 26, 2017 at 08:18:42
jedrider
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Thanks. I always wondered what instrument he played on the album. I guess, the score.

 

Doesn't seem like you own the album., posted on February 26, 2017 at 08:25:57
The band was comprised of some of the most creative and unique musicians in jazz. The leader was an innovative composer/arranger and a great saxophone soloist -- and you think the result may have been due to experience playing commercial music in the studio?! Ahh, no.

Oliver Nelson wrote the music and played tenor on the recording.

 

And he gets that seamless Tenor sound on his metal Selmer Mpc., posted on February 26, 2017 at 09:22:05
oldmkvi
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Sonny Criss and Leo Wright were the only other ( Alto ) Players I remember using the Metal Selmer.
I have a Jimmy Smith Album Oliver Arranged, and just w/ Woodwinds, no Brass.
James Bond Theme and others.
A Fav.

 

RE: And he gets that seamless Tenor sound on his metal Selmer Mpc., posted on February 26, 2017 at 09:30:17
Travis
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Oliver had one of the best soprano sax sounds on The Shadow of Your Smile.


"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok

 

I sound like a buzz saw cutting thru steel with Selmer metal m'pieces. Dunno how those guys did it. nt, posted on February 26, 2017 at 09:32:02
nt

 

Yep. Oliver with a killer ryhthm section (Steve Kuhn, Ron Carter, Grady Tate). Knockout soprano playing. nt , posted on February 26, 2017 at 09:36:39
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Exactly! They were shallow and shrill for me. nt, posted on February 26, 2017 at 10:36:28
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Knew his way around all the horns... alto and tenor being the best known..., posted on February 26, 2017 at 11:00:35
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Held his own with many and worked much with Dolphy, as serious a player as ever... played.

His New Jazz/Prestige recordings are some of my favorites though BAT IS
the apex of his enormous talents.

My favorite of his arranging duties is also on impulse! - Alfie by Sonny Rollins presents an exquisite canvas as deep and enriching as any.
Yet he also managed to arrange my least favorite Monk LP, Monk's Blues. But he was a hired gun there.

Wouldn't say Nelson's later, heavily Thiele tinged records are my cup of tee, but
there's always a tune or two to remind you that he WAS always in charge.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure




 

RE: Blues And The Abstract Truth, posted on February 26, 2017 at 13:46:45
fantja
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A very fine album by Oliver Nelson.

 

Sorry - he wrote the music, arranged it and, posted on February 26, 2017 at 23:50:59
kavakidd
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Played alto & tenor saxes. Why the criticism? The man was brilliant
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

It's hard to miss, standing in front of Ron Carter! (nt), posted on March 1, 2017 at 10:14:39
mr.bear
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;-)

 

RE: It's hard to miss, standing in front of Ron Carter! (nt), posted on March 2, 2017 at 05:05:04
fantja
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Anything w/ Bill Evans- I am there!

 

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