Buddy Rich, "Get off my bus"

He also had an exaggerated opinion of the quality of his big bands - they
simply practiced the "higher, faster, louder" method of play.

If you want to watch an interesting video, look up the drum battle between
Rich and Ed Shaughnessy that played out on the tonight show a few decades
back. Suffice to say, Rich did not "win".

And for very interesting recording, listen to the Tatum/Rich/Hampton
recording that Norman Granz made, in the Tatum group recordings. You can
feel the egos and testosterone flow thru the music.

Lack of skill dictates economy of style. - Joey Ramone

When Miles Davis was asked who the "best drummer" was..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 09:27:48
genungo	.., he is said to have said "Rich on sticks, Roach on brushes" and going by the music on "Rich vs. Roach" I'd tend to agree with him. To each guy, the consideration he deserves.

RE: When Miles Davis was asked who the "best drummer" was..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 09:56:44
rbolaw	Rich may have had an exaggerated opinion of his ability as a band leader. When I heard him, I thought his band was too much about his own solos. Somewhere in one of his tirades, he says something along the lines of "the people are paying to hear me play, not you". But imo that says as much about his ability as a band leader as it does about his ability as a drummer, his ego, or anything else.

*RE: Nice to hear Buddy being intentionally* funny :-) nt, posted on May 16, 2015 at 11:17:38**
suretyguy Audiophile Posts: 3022 Location: western Missouri Joined: October 9, 2001	Unless it was merely an indication that he hadn't bothered to learn their names?

RE: When Miles Davis was asked who the "best drummer" was..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 11:29:27
jec01 Audiophile Posts: 1462 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Joined: September 22, 2004	All I can say is, when I saw the Buddy Rich Big Band (twice), I was definitely paying to hear Buddy. The band was just a backdrop to me. Happy listening, Jim "The passage of my life is measured out in shirts." - Brian Eno

"The band was just a backdrop", posted on May 16, 2015 at 12:48:27
rbolaw	Well put, and that's exactly what I didn't like about it. Great drummer, though.

I have to give the "win" to Buddy., posted on May 16, 2015 at 13:29:39

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That left-handed tom part was pretty special. But to Ed's defense, Buddy's job was to do multiple solos every night of the year.

As for the quality of his band's playing, I saw him with a small ensemble in a small club years ago and he completely overpowered the sound of the group. You had to be there mainly to hear him because you could barely hear the other members, especially since he was set up front and center.

I saw that at the time and Ed skewered Buddy, posted on May 16, 2015 at 13:42:25
kavakidd Audiophile Posts: 20316 Location: Upstate NY Joined: April 15, 2004	reminded me of the time when Doc skewered Wynton "Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

Ditto..., posted on May 16, 2015 at 20:44:54

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and the (mostly) youngsters in the band fresh out of Berklee (or wherever), in their ill-fitting
outfits, anxiously struggling to find the right page in the book as BR started tapping out time,
playing their asses off and make it through the set in one piece really earned their pay.

Helluva gig, extension course and experience playing with that ugly egomaniac.

The two times I saw HIM and them was just tremendous.

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Buddy Rich, "Get off my bus"

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