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Lip-syncing on 60s-70's music TV shows?

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Posted on December 16, 2014 at 12:49:01
mwhitmore
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 I see many DVDs in Goldmine for Soul Train, American Bandstand, Hullabaloo etc. Some have performers I might like to hear. I'm wondering which ones are actual performances and which ones are 'the record' lip-synced. Wasn't this the case on American Bandstand, at least sometimes?

 

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Based on my memories from the time & having seen a lot of those clips recently …, posted on December 16, 2014 at 14:04:56
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 ... you will likely find that the bulk of the performances were lip-synced.

IIRC, most of the time, the band members are pantomining everything while their hit single is playing behind them.

Also IIRC, though, from time to time, the music is from the orginal recording, but fresh vocals were recorded at a sound-check earlier in the day ... and all the performers are still lip-syncing, albeit to an “almost live” vocal.

To the best of my memory, only a few TV shows routinely featured actual on-the-spot live performances. Seems as though “Midnight Special” (maybe?) was one that was basically live. I am probably wrong here, but someone with a clearer memory than mine will soon correct this, I am all but certain.

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RE: Based on my memories from the time & having seen a lot of those clips recently …, posted on December 16, 2014 at 14:08:56
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 I attended a Midnight Special that was taped at the university where I was an undergrad. The performances were live. My main memory was they introduced a local DJ, and had to redo it about a dozen times because half the audience booed when they announced him.

 

RE: Lip-syncing on 60s-70's music TV shows?, posted on December 16, 2014 at 14:09:06
fantja
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 Sadly, it was all staged...

 

Soul Train had live performances . . . , posted on December 16, 2014 at 18:30:02
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 not all but some very notable artists.






 

HA! HA! And thank you for that confirmation! [nt], posted on December 16, 2014 at 18:37:39
Charlie F.
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 (:~)

 

Gonna be hit and miss..., posted on December 16, 2014 at 20:41:07
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RE: Lip-syncing on 60s-70's music TV shows?, posted on December 17, 2014 at 14:18:53
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 It is my understanding that the BBC insisted that artists did not lip synch to the recording that was in the charts at that time but that it was ok to lip synch to a recording specially made for the BBC.....this arrangement was supposed to exist during the latter part of the sixties and into the seventies on shows like "Top of the Pops" but not on shows like "The Old Grey Whistle Test" where artists would have been expected to perform live.
You can see the veracity of my contention one way or other on "You Tube".
One question about the above .is:
How do you rerecord heavily orchestrated tracks?

 

RE: Lip-syncing on 60s-70's music TV shows?, posted on December 18, 2014 at 05:35:38
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 during the 80's, I watched AB every Saturday - without fail. One particular show featured Bon Jovi. I knew something was amiss as the band stopped "playing" to chat with Dick Clark, yet the song was still playing in the back ground...?

 

While I wasn't even remotely a regular AB viewer, …, posted on December 18, 2014 at 06:25:59
Charlie F.
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 ... I have to say that I can't remember even one “live” performance on Bandstand that appeared truly live to me.

But, man, didn't that show have some serious staying power?

Speaking of lip-synced performances on major TV shows back in the day, I remember one of the Young Rascals’ (at least I think it was them) outings on the Ed Sullivan Show. Though I don't recall the song, there was a section that had a flanged lead vocal track. I remember Felix Cavaliere picking up a hair dryer and “singing” into it each time the flanging came around. Wow.

 

RE: Lip-syncing on 60s-70's music TV shows?, posted on December 18, 2014 at 06:49:55
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 Too bad about all that lip synching. What great artists and music during that period. You could say the "bench" was deep in all genres.

Check out BBC's The Old Grey Whistle Test. Interesting format and a lot of great artists including Little Feet, Bob Marley, Talking Heads, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Curtis Mayfield and many others. And... no lip synching and applause tracks.

 

dat was a goowon, posted on December 18, 2014 at 06:53:33
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 Any more?

 

RE: While I wasn't even remotely a regular AB viewer, …, posted on December 18, 2014 at 08:47:40
fantja
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 Right On! Charlie-

as much as I love SNL, those guys have been guilty a few times over the years. As for our late-night hosts, Letterman, Fallon & Kimmel, I would like to think that their musical guests are actually performing "live"...

 

Yessir!, posted on December 18, 2014 at 12:06:52
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 I'm with you on all stated counts.

My favorite SNL music bit was definitely live. I don't recall the exact year, but it was still early days. Elvis Costello was the musical act. The band kicked off the agreed-upon song (“Less Than Zero”), but less than a minute into it, Elvis stopped it cold and counted off “Radio Radio.” He was then banned from the show for over a decade.

Ha!

Happy days,
-=- Charlie F.

 

RE: Yessir!, posted on December 18, 2014 at 13:05:34
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 Excellent example- Charlie.

even today, I still cannot believe that SNL wanted to censor EC back in those days. IMO, SNL broke the mold called censorship! Too funny...

 

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