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Posted on November 19, 2014 at 18:50:08
Cameraman
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Suggestions for the best sounding CD'S of these Violin Concertos

Thanx
Bill

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Szeryng's 1 and 4 has been reissued on a Pentatone SACD, posted on November 19, 2014 at 21:13:46
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That doesn't necessarily mean it's the best sounding, but Penatone generally does a good job with these reissue SACD's, and if you're set up for multi-channel, that can enhance your enjoyment even more. For number 1, there are a lot of choices, and I wouldn't presume to name a "best". I have Mullova (recorded back in the days when she was a babe). She's dam' good, but I'm not sure I'd claim that this recording's SQ is the best - although it's certainly not bad at all. If you want all 6 Paganini concertos, I think you have to go with Accardo (unless I'm forgetting someone else).

BTW - you can delete your double entry above if you want.

 

RE: Szeryng's 1 and 4 has been reissued on a Pentatone SACD, posted on November 20, 2014 at 02:52:31
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Thanx Chris I will look into that


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RE: Szeryng's 1 and 4 has been reissued on a Pentatone SACD, posted on November 20, 2014 at 05:18:24
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Thanks! for sharing.

 

RE: Szeryng's 1 and 4 has been reissued on a Pentatone SACD, posted on November 20, 2014 at 07:26:51
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I'll give this one a listen on QOBUZ and if I like it I'll spring for the SACD. It's cheap on Amazon via ImportCDs.

Link below:


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RE: Szeryng's 1 and 4 has been reissued on a Pentatone SACD, posted on November 20, 2014 at 11:26:07
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Here is one of the must exiting performances of these pieces I have ever heard. Also it is the most realistic violin sounds ever captured
http://www.amazon.com/Paganini-24-Caprices-N/dp/B000002S4E/ref=sr_1_5?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1416511491&sr=1-5&keywords=rabin+michael
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Uh, a different option to consider, posted on November 20, 2014 at 17:52:34
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The Szeryng performances are not exactly top tier. Actually, no, let's be honest. Szeryng's recordings on that SACD are really not recommendable.

First of all, the cadenzas that Szerygn chose just don't cut it. I suppose he was trying to differentiate himself from other violinists of the era, but his choice of cadenzas relegates these recordings to the "supplemental" category.

Second, Szeryng just didn't play very well in these recording sessions. I'm not sure what his problem was. The recordings were made when he was in his late 50s, so age should not have been the explanation. But there's a lot of scratching and slurring going on here. It lacks precision and sizzle.

The audio is good, remastered. But remember it is from an old recording to begin with, so it's not like this is an SACD quality recording made in recent years. When one accounts for the off-target cadenzas and the rather poor performances, I would not go that route.

For performance of the 1st concerto, Kogan, Rabin, Francescatti and Menuhin are all splendid, each offering enough difference to be uniquely satisfying. I also love the amazing fire of Tretykov, who paired with Jarvi on a couple of recordings. All of those recordings overshadow more recent ones by people like Hillary Hahn and Sarah Chang. Unfortunately, the audio of all those recordings is not going to knock you over.

Perlman's recording of the 1st Concerto from the 1980s has been remastered by EMI and that is the one I would recommend for that concerto alone. It is a very good performance and the remastered audio is good. If you want the entire set, opt for Accardo, who is technically excellent and really is very good in this repertoire.

Now, for an alternative -- something to supplement the standard take on Paganini, I would not go with Szeryng, I would go this route:

The recordings I am enjoying most these days are by Massimo Quarta. A couple of things set his recordings apart. For one, he is playing Paganini's own violin, nicknamed "The Canon", tuned the way Paganini tuned it. (That means the first concerto is today's E-flat major, for example.) The performance of the 1st is from the autograph score, not later versions with all the changes introduced over the years. Quarta has the chops to give it an excellent showing. And the audio is quite good, although not SACD.

Paganini's later concertos were not in the same league as the first and second. Quarta has recorded all of them, so if you want a completist set, go with the Accardo and the box set by Quarta. But if it's just the 1st concerto you want, well, there are many available (and I'd go with Perlman or the Accardo), but with the Quarta as the kicker.

Now, the caprices -- that's an entirely different topic.


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"The recordings were made when he was in his late 50s", posted on November 21, 2014 at 00:25:33
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Happens to a lot of old guys (pianists too!) - they just start to slow down!

Seriously, I didn't know you were into the Paganini concertos! Of the ones you listed I used to own both Rabin performances - excellent indeed - and I'm familiar with the Tretyakov performance too (also excellent), although I did not mention these performances because the OP seemed to be specifically interested in SQ. I still contend that Mullova is in this company, but again, the Szerying performances were the ones which had received the hi-rez treatment, even though, as you say, his is far from a new recording.

 

RE: Uh, a different option to consider, posted on November 21, 2014 at 07:31:55
Thanks for that summary. For the caprices, I've always preferred Perlman. In addition to his complete technical security, he is the only one I've heard to consistently achieve a nuanced, gentle, whimsical, in short, capricious approach, rather than a mere pyrotechnical display. Though I wish Milstein had recorded a set.

Another good Paganini 1: Erik Friedman.

 

RE: Paganini , posted on November 21, 2014 at 07:47:53
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Strictly from performance standpoint, not the audio quality, two performers stand out among the crowd, for Concertos 1 & 2 Ruggiero Ricci in his prime offered a spectacular performance that was available on Decca, and before that Yehudi Menuhin recorded the first concerto with Pierre Monteaux conducting, this one was the finest of all dating back from the violonists prime era long before he lost his technique, a fiery performance in Heifetz league.

Vahe

 

Agree re: Accardo--w/ an impressive l.h.p. You Tube, posted on November 21, 2014 at 09:08:22
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I think that he had the chops, the style, and pretty good recorded sound by any standard.

Here's a choice YT of one of Paganini's more violinistic and less musical showpieces:







ATB,

John

PS: There is a 3rd-party YT Old Embed Code Generator, fyi.

 

RE: Paganini , posted on November 21, 2014 at 09:10:40
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Yes, I too really like the Menuhin recordings. He brings not only the fire, but also the sensuality and swagger. Fine performances indeed.


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RE: "The recordings were made when he was in his late 50s", posted on November 21, 2014 at 09:52:27
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"Seriously, I didn't know you were into the Paganini concertos!"

Not only that, I also once heard a recording of some violin music by a guy named, let's see, Bock or something like that. Pretty good. I hear rumored that he also had music for cello. Who ever heard of such a thing? Violins and cellos. Next thing you know, somebody will compose music for guitar. Oh, that's right, Paganini played guitar. Not guitar. Piano! That's it, piano! Can you imagine?

hahaha .....


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