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Ferenc Fricsay set

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Posted on August 21, 2014 at 09:03:56
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KUSC.org has been playing from Fricsay's new large 45 CD set. Last night, caught Tchaikovsky sym 4 about 3 min into last movement. RIAS orchestra with Fricsay. Mostly a brilliant and expressive performance.

Do you have any memories of his recordings?
I remember a wonderful old stereo DGG set with ballet excerpts and a few others when I was young. They're still pristine LP's in my parents' home, waiting for some use.

 

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Been streaming from the set..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 09:09:02
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which is up on QOBUZ.

Great music, IMNSHO.

Best quote from the Amazon.com reviews:

"If God is all-good and all-powerful, why did Karajan live over 80 years and Fricsay not even 50?"




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RE: Been streaming from the set..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 09:50:37
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Although the thought is very human, this is why God is God and we/you aren't Him. We don't know. And I liked a lot of Karajan.

 

I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 10:13:10
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and most of what I like was recorded before he became von KARAJAN!


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Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 12:05:39
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I like some of earlier DG stuff, but especially liked the EMI things with Philharmonia and BPO. I have been listening to his accompanying S Richter on Tchaikovsky PC 1, with VSO, downloaded to car. Intense and fiery, great phrasing. Tried not to like it, but can't.

 

RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 12:11:16
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Stuff like this?




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RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 12:17:55
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Now you're talking! That's a great recording! I think its current incarnation is this one:

 

RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 21, 2014 at 12:40:15
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That looks like a Soria edition of his famed RCA, recorded by Kenneth Wilkinson.

I was thinking of Mozart Horn Conc with Brain, some Mozart symphonies, a compilation of orchestral pieces. Really good sound and playing with large structural sound, not that weird smooth stuff of later life.

 

I like his Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra., posted on August 21, 2014 at 18:02:24
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B/w Music For Strings, Percussion & Celesta.

 

RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 22, 2014 at 21:26:59
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I agree that Karajan's best recordings were early in his career, especially those with the then newly formed Philharmonia. The Strauss operas they did in the early 50s are still unsurpassed to this day - the Rosenkavalier, the Ariadne auf Naxos - fantastic stuff.

 

Karajan Lite..., posted on August 23, 2014 at 08:40:43
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For a Saturday morning!

Nicely remastered in 2005.


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Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: I like very little of Karajan..., posted on August 23, 2014 at 09:17:40
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yes, he was pretty agile on this stuff...the VPO annual New Yrs concert that he conducted in 1987 I think is one of the best ones ever, imho. The one which has Kathy Battle singing during Voices of Spring.

There are others I like from his DGG years, maybe I will post later.

I loved Fricsay, to get us back to the original point.

 

When I was a kid I favored his Mozart Symphonies, especialy #29, posted on August 24, 2014 at 21:27:29
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which was perfect IIRC.

"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields

 

FRICSAY/BPO Tchaikovsky (STEREO) 6th a winner!, posted on September 29, 2014 at 20:32:18
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In the event that you haven't heard it, Tchaikovsky's 6th (STEREO) reading by FRICSAY/BERLIN PHILHARMONIKER on the HELIODOR label is simply sublime.

The imported pressing is as quiet as a church-mouse too!

FRICSAY and the Berliners were right up there with the best I have heard, which (for reference sake - in case you loathe them) I include ASHKENAZY/PO/DECCA and PLETNEV/RNO/VIRGIN.

(Sadly, the latter is CD-only and is not quite up to the earlier versions in terms of sparkling extended treble...)

 

Die Zauberfloete, posted on September 30, 2014 at 19:33:00
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It's mono and ca 1954, but much of the singing hasn't been bettered, and the conducting is energetic and well-paced.

 

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