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Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan

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Posted on May 14, 2023 at 17:02:38
TitaniumTroy
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Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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 Cynthia the Audio Belle, interview's Mick master and commander of the service dept. at Magnepan. At one point the in the interview she tries to corner Mick regarding the bass of the 3.7i that were demoing in the room, alternating with the LRS+. Or as Cynthia puts it the lack of bass or mid bass, that she heard from 3.7i. Ironically Cynthia owns Magnepan 3.7i's, as someone who used to use 3.6's in my main system I have my own ideas regarding Maggie bass.

Most of my thoughts regarding Maggie bass have been expressed by people smarter than me on here, but I will try pick out what I think is the most true. Maggie bass is superior to box speakers in playing non amplified
acoustic music within a given volume level, and depending on room size. In the interview the subject of subwoofers came into play, for two channel stereo I do think Maggies could benefit from Wendell's mythical Ultrawide Band Woofer system though they would probably need a lower crossover than the 30.7c for Condo's model

I have heard the large 20.1 the large 30.7, and they did not have the impact or dynamic's of the condo model combined with the UBS system. IMHO planer bass alone needs some additional help in the bass and mid bass and open baffle dynamic woofers are probably the best solution. Now if your doing home theatre your going to a more conventional subwoofer.

 

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RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 14, 2023 at 17:10:11
TitaniumTroy
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 Stay tuned for AXPONA related Magnepan video's from Cynthia, oh by the way if you see a chubby guy in the hallway of AXPONA in a green Norte Dame polo shirt that me.

 

RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 16, 2023 at 13:37:17
josh358
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 I think that's a pretty good analysis. Ultimately, it depends on your criteria, on the type of music you play, how loudly you play it, whether you want it to be natural (acoustical) or it doesn't matter much (electronic), and your room.

 

RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 16, 2023 at 14:19:36
Davey
 "Cynthia converted to audiophilism 5 years ago."
Hehehehe.

I hope folks are starting to appreciate my comments regarding the audio press. It's a total clown show.

Dave.

 

RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 16, 2023 at 20:14:48
TitaniumTroy
Audiophile

Posts: 626
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
Joined: October 14, 2006
 With the demise of so many local stereo dealerships, even in large markets like Chicago. The average audiophile is stuck audio with shows, which have speakers stuffed into tiny hotel rooms. Which sound nowhere near their potential, but that's just the way it is.

With the exception of AXPONA and the fall of RMAF, smaller audio shows seem to be the trend for the near future. Well audio shows do generate a lot of press, even if review's seem somewhat dubious at best.

I always appreciate your comments Davey, when I disagree with them.

 

RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 16, 2023 at 21:17:44
Davey
 The average audiophile has numerous information avenues without resorting to a dealer experience nor a goofy audio show full of vendors with goofy products.
You're participating on one (albeit a rather poor one) right now. :)

Audio shows like we see now are a relatively new phenomenon. In the old days there were audio shows, yes, but it was totally different setup. More like smaller versions of CES.
Dealer networks have certainly existed for many years, but in the old days there were many more so competition dampened the silliness and promoted more objectivity.

A persons path into the world of audio equipment was quite different back when I started. :)

Dave.

 

RE: Audio Belle AXPONA 2023 on the future of Magnepan , posted on May 19, 2023 at 23:59:27
triamp
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Location: USA
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 I very much like the added solidity that a pair of dual-12 GRS/Rhythmik open-baffle servo subs added to my tri-amped MG 3.6's

What many listeners call "lack of mid-bass punch" is really just the lack of delayed release of bass energy that box speakers exhibit- the bass is "held" somewhat until the energy stored in the cabinets radiates out into the room, combined with the greater excitation of the rooms' bass modes that non-dipoles cause. Read what Linkwitz writes about dipole woofers and room resonance excitation. Box type speakers smear the bass- there is energy absorbed and then released over time that is longer than the actual bass transient, longer than the transient plus any acoustic reverberation in the listening space. Making a box speaker with extremely rigid, highly damped material will reduce the midrange coloration caused by the box, but it cannot eliminate the stored energy problem in the bass. Every bass system has some stored energy problems, but large panels and open baffle servo-driven cones have less. I listen to all kinds of music including dub and EDM which rely on low frequencies and they sound great. It doesn't sound like a reggae club, because reggae clubs have bass bins galore; but it sounds GREAT. And, of course, so does acoustic jazz, classical, and so on. There's not quite enough BANGBOOM for LFE from film, but it does a credible job there too. That's hardly music, which is what I'm most interested in.
Science doesn't care what you believe.

 

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