Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 19, 2020 at 09:00:57
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ESL 63's bought new in 80's (nt), posted on July 19, 2020 at 09:24:48
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Interesting choice, posted on July 19, 2020 at 10:46:34

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for someone who quotes Doug Sax on the importance of bass! ;^)

But the few times I've heard 57s they produced good bass, just not very extended.

Also interesting that you called for planar owners, who may be mainly those with Maggies, and so far only Quad electrostatic owners replied.

My own choice is Janszen, but they are hybrids.

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RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 19, 2020 at 11:54:40
BDP24 Audiophile Posts: 1070 Location: Vancouver, Washington Joined: September 12, 2013	Tympani T-IVa, Quad 57, Eminent Technology LFT-4 and LFT-8b, RTR tweeters in ESS Transtatic I's.

RE: Interesting choice, posted on July 19, 2020 at 12:20:46
emailtim Audiophile Posts: 5504 Joined: July 2, 2017	Got any naked pictures of Janszens. They seem to be pretty tight lipped and fully clothed. . 2022/03/30 Historical Records CENSORED

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 19, 2020 at 13:43:32
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RE: naked pictures?, posted on July 19, 2020 at 14:40:03
M3 lover Audiophile Posts: 6604 Location: SW Mich Joined: May 29, 2005 Contributor Since: July 4, 2007	Nope. Grill cloth is not removable without damaging. So yes, tight lipped. The closest I could suggest would be diagrams of the screens on their website. "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made." Groucho

RE: Interesting choice, posted on July 19, 2020 at 14:49:12
Story Audiophile Posts: 10459 Location: NJ Joined: December 11, 2000	I've filled in the bottom 2 octaves with 5 subs spread around the room and carefully balanced in. They are not louder individually but integrate together very nicely. What can I say, except I like bass as in bass guitar, stand up bass, pipe organ, moving air - all the fundamentals.

RE: naked pictures?, posted on July 19, 2020 at 15:05:13
emailtim Audiophile Posts: 5504 Joined: July 2, 2017	I found some images of their older models. Looks like they use multi-panel designs. . 2022/03/30 Historical Records CENSORED

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 19, 2020 at 15:24:51
ejman Audiophile Posts: 403 Location: SW Oregon Joined: October 3, 2006	I guess, I'll be the one loony person in the entire planar universe to admit I'm quite fond of my 1.7 Maggies in my main system...and my MGI Imp in my TV system, and my MMG's in the bedroom.

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 20, 2020 at 03:53:01
Story Audiophile Posts: 10459 Location: NJ Joined: December 11, 2000	those are beautiful frames for your 57's. Are the frames completely redone?

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 20, 2020 at 07:27:03

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RE: bass, posted on July 20, 2020 at 07:39:01

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Story, that sounds similar to the Swarm (distributed bass system) offered by Audio Kinesis among others. I've seen several positive reports on that. I can imagine it works very nicely with Quads covering above mid bass.

I've used a standard of clean bass down to 42 Hz to cover the string bass. That misses the reaches of a pipe organ and a small number of other instruments but then not much music is written for the lowest notes. except maybe electronic.

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Here you go, posted on July 20, 2020 at 08:12:58
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37669 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	Here is what the electrostatic section looks like. Like older models, it uses a pair of angled panels: This video shows a ZA2.1 being assembled: View YouTube Video

Thanks for that, posted on July 20, 2020 at 09:47:34
emailtim Audiophile Posts: 5504 Joined: July 2, 2017	Thanks for the video and image. Boxed stats with cabinet stuffing and @ 500Hz XO. It appears the DIY symmetric electronically segmented builds are crossing over @ [200-250]Hz, an octave lower in comparison. . 2022/03/30 Historical Records CENSORED

3.6's NT, posted on July 20, 2020 at 14:53:31
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Acoustat Monitor 4's, posted on July 20, 2020 at 14:56:36
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RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 20, 2020 at 19:30:06
airheadair Audiophile Posts: 393 Location: California Joined: October 18, 2010	Stax F83's, with subwoofers designed by Roger Modjeski for his proprietary ELS system.

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 20, 2020 at 22:10:19
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RE: Acoustat Monitor 4's, posted on July 21, 2020 at 03:15:35
Story Audiophile Posts: 10459 Location: NJ Joined: December 11, 2000	Nice! I had a pair years ago and the guy who has them now still has them

Janszen photos, posted on July 21, 2020 at 10:34:07
George6 Audiophile Posts: 182 Joined: November 18, 2012	emailtim's top photo is a JansZen Z600, the first real speakers I bought, back in 1968. They were great, until one of the electrostatic tweeters gave out and I sold them to buy Dynaco A25's. At the time, G. Holt thought highly of the JansZens, and I read somewhere that Jim Winey had a pair of these when he was designing the first Magnepans.

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 21, 2020 at 11:13:02
mbnx01 Audiophile Posts: 7956 Location: Eagle, Idaho Joined: October 22, 2004	I bought those from Kent at Electrostatic solutions. I bought them for cosmetics but was shocked how much the sound was improved. More dynamics, tighter image. 'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain

Are they, posted on July 21, 2020 at 12:38:41
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37669 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	walking down the stairs? ;)

Sound Lab U-1PX, Acoustat 1+1, Magnepan MC1 -nt, posted on July 21, 2020 at 12:41:08
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RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 21, 2020 at 15:18:28
LineSource Audiophile Posts: 145 Location: Iowa Joined: July 29, 2014	Currently Magnepan 1.7is. Have had smgas and mmgs. LineSource

Quad 57s updated by Electrostatic Solutions..., posted on July 21, 2020 at 16:14:53
JimL Audiophile Posts: 3773 Location: New Mexico Joined: November 24, 2002	plus a Hartley 24" dipole subwoofer with active/passive crossover.

RE: Sound Lab U-1PX, Acoustat 1+1, Magnepan MC1 -nt, posted on July 21, 2020 at 17:44:41
airheadair Audiophile Posts: 393 Location: California Joined: October 18, 2010	Do you still have all these? In various systems, or do you swap them in and out?

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on July 21, 2020 at 17:46:14
airheadair Audiophile Posts: 393 Location: California Joined: October 18, 2010	Again, how many of these do you still now? And is there a separate system for each?

Everything by Quad!, posted on July 21, 2020 at 19:59:28
George S. Roland Audiophile Posts: 1470 Location: N W Pennsylvania Joined: March 20, 2004	I have Quad ESL-63 USA Monitors and Quad ESLs(57s)both restored by Electrostatic Solutions. They are both fantastic speakers! Love'em!

RE: Sound Lab U-1PX, Acoustat 1+1, Magnepan MC1 -nt, posted on July 22, 2020 at 05:47:04

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In truth, the MC1s are still on order. The U-1s remain in the main system and the Maggies will be used as surrounds with the 1+1s when the family room/kitchen remodeling project is finished. I also have a MGC center, but that will be retired.

The new space will be far larger and more open than the previous arrangement. As the wall that previously separated the family room from the kitchen is gone (as are two others), the system will be flipped to the opposite wall. I'll be able to place some of the gear in a hidden closet to the right and all cables will be hidden using chases in wall and floor. And I get a dedicated 20A line. Pics of current system and previous HT available in my gallery. Here's the new space so far:

RE: Sound Lab U-1PX, Acoustat 1+1, Magnepan MC1 -nt, posted on July 22, 2020 at 07:05:46
kentaja Manufacturer Posts: 4614 Joined: March 26, 2001	Wow what an amazing space!!

ESL-988, posted on July 22, 2020 at 12:47:50
Zombie Audiophile Posts: 772 Joined: March 5, 2002	...

Martin Logan CLX c/w pair Decent i subwoofers, posted on July 23, 2020 at 08:20:35
DDzStereo Audiophile Posts: 206 Location: North of Toronto, Ontario Joined: July 1, 2009	nt

Roll on, Maggie 3.7i, Magtech pre & amp, Hsu 1500 sub., posted on July 24, 2020 at 03:06:45
Audiophilander Audiophile Posts: 30200 Location: Fort Worth (D/FW Metroplex) Joined: March 31, 2000	Left out my Wright modded Oppo, and Naim 2A3X out of the mix, but there'er great performers. This combination works quite synergistically, Cheers, Cat

RE: Are they, posted on July 24, 2020 at 11:09:21
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Makes sense ;). -nt, posted on July 25, 2020 at 23:01:46
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ESL57's in small room, tri-amped MG3.6's w/DEQX in larger room, posted on July 29, 2020 at 16:53:21

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I had 4 x 10" sealed box subs with the MG3.6's, using a Behringer DCX2496 to cross over at 45 Hz, but I retired those and now just use the triamped MG3.6's

The bass is quite nice without the subs but I can sometimes push the 3.6's hard enough to slap the magnets, so I bought another DEQX and plan to build Rhythmik open baffle servo subs to spare the 3.6's lowest octave duty.
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UPDATE I have the OB subs now and I **LOVE** them, they blend with the MG 3.6's very well.

The Quad ESL 57's have Quads Unlimited rebuilt tweeters and I will be getting Quads Unlimited woofer panels soon as I save up a little dough.

FYI I also have PLANAR HEADPHONES - Stax lambda pro signature, Stax SR-007 mkI, Koss ESP 950 with Stax cabling, and a pair of HiFiMan HE-6's. They all sound different, and they all sound good- and I use them each at different times. I used to have a pair of Audeze LCD-2's, but I sold those.
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RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on August 13, 2020 at 13:30:56
atom666 Audiophile Posts: 33 Location: Etobicoke Joined: September 13, 2005	Acoustat 8800 I built a couple of years ago. Just added the JVC clone planar tweeters in dipole configuration with 22 front, 11 rear, at 10Khz using passive 6db/octave crossover and they sound great. I also have Apogee Divas Scintillas Duettas I will get around to rebuiding the Apogees this winter, but I've said that for the last two years ;^). Andrew

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on August 13, 2020 at 13:36:11
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RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on October 12, 2021 at 22:30:21
copperlynx Audiophile Posts: 24 Joined: August 18, 2002	ESL 63 ESL 57 both with Wayne PK panels and some tweaks

RE: Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt, posted on October 13, 2021 at 06:13:33
mmlrot1 Audiophile Posts: 99 Joined: June 10, 2011	I still use Martin Logan Summits along side of Tympani 4 bass panels, and Rotary Subwoofer!!!! This combo provides fantastic bass and a huge soundstage.

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Roll call - Planar's you use, mine are ESL 57's & still fantastic /nt

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