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Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!..

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Posted on September 21, 2015 at 13:29:05
audiophile919
 I found this on their facebook page...A BOLD Statement!! Their "entry level" $$$3500 system can't be outperformed by any other system on the planet...at any price!!..

 

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Uh, OK, posted on September 21, 2015 at 14:31:53
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 "Reviews" like that...

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 21, 2015 at 19:01:04
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 Very sketchy.   Every crucial spec for which I looked was suspiciously absent.



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RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 07:09:27
Utley1
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 I called Essence. Very honest. Even the tall version ,(1500)with the identical specs AS THE SMALLER require THEIR subwoofer. This in effect a two way system in which there are many MARTIN lOGAN COMPETITORS, although at higher prices. I also did not quyite ndersgtand their material technology.

 

So long as you drive them with, posted on September 22, 2015 at 11:37:29
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 a PAT-4 and Stereo 120!



 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 13:08:54
Satie
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 I am sure it is not all that. But the potential is there to get most of the performance of a high end system on a shoe string (relative terms). So long as you are willing to forgo high maximum SPL, bass dynamic and bass extension (or use a sealed subwoofer).

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 13:20:28
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 Sealed woofers are the worst type to use with Dipoles ....

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 13:43:41
Satie
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 H or W frame with EQ are the supposed best choice but I have not real experience with them, but I did ok with sealed bipolar subs. Till their death rattle...

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 14:42:48
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 Well yeah, sealed bi-polar is much different and can work , use alot to lower thd

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 15:42:31
josh358
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 I found some measurements here:

http://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity/Essence%20Electrostatic%20Model%201600/index_H.html

Also, it looks like they don't play very loud.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 22, 2015 at 21:47:51
Satie
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 Quite a spike in the top octave. Hope their electronics can EQ it.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 05:28:29
josh358
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 Yes, though old ears like mine probably wouldn't notice. :-|

OTOH, polar response is better than many stats -- which of course isn't saying much. Judging by the picture, they've printed the diaphragm with segments.

I think it's interesting that the diaphragm is ink jet printed, I've wondered whether you couldn't ink jet print resist on a planar diaphragm.

I read somewhere a comment to the effect that harmonic distortion is high with this design (signal applied to diaphragm rather than stators).

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 08:44:15
Satie
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 I am surprised they can get away with the FR.

I have no idea about the HD measurements.

The resist printing is actually the new thing to do for film PC boards like BG diaphragms.. As it is cheaper than the optical method because of the size.

The graphite printing should probably allow a more uniform and thicker layer.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 10:10:41
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 Speaking of H and W's a good friend has the latest incarnation of the Linkwitz woofer section (major changes) the bottom end is not the deepest I have heard but it is the cleanest bottom around
Thanx

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 11:14:11
josh358
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 The ear really isn't very sensitive to freq response that high up. I think a younger person would hear this, but even young ears don't discriminate level as well at these frequencies as in the midrange. (I think some experienced golden ears can do better, though -- and as a result the effect of speaker cables and minor differences in electronics, impedance interaction, etc.)

In ESL's, I imagine that uniform is good but you wouldn't want a thick layer since the diaphragm has to have high resistivity to prevent distortion due to charge migration.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 11:36:52
Satie
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 The resist coating is on the stators. So your main issue with graphite thickness is adhesion which "printing" should do better than rubbing does. You can also seal with a very thin size to avoid losing graphite to the stators.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 23, 2015 at 11:40:44
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 Interesting.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 25, 2015 at 09:05:06
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 That wouldn't surprise me. No port delay or boxy resonances (there might be some resonances from the folded baffle but in good design these are kept small WRT the wavelength reproduced). And since Linkwitz is using active equalization, it's presumably minimum phase so you don't get the ringing you do with planar bass panels. At the same time, you retain the major advantage of dipole bass, suppression of lateral room modes.

To get it to mate ideally with a line source, you'd want the bass to be a line source, which means you need two drivers per highest audible wavelength. So you might want to use a different folded baffle design. I was thinking you could make a half H-frame tower that goes against the side wall. Two drivers would be enough for an 80 Hz high slope crossover. So not much more expensive. However, if you're listening at a fixed position, I imagine that the original point source design would be fine, you won't be able to localize it at that frequency, the difference in radiation pattern can be adjusted out, and I don't think the vertical lobing will be an issue.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 25, 2015 at 09:16:04
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 The more I look at these the more interesting they become. Full range, I think they suffer from some stereotypical stat issues -- beamy highs and anemic bass. (I say stereotypical because of course not all stats have them.) However, they response and polar plots look good from about 350 Hz to 3k. Which, as it happens, is almost the range of a Tympani midrange. I'm thinking the larger version (not yet released) might do very well between my IVa woofers and the ribbon tweeters. Not sure about maximum SPL, though Dick Olsher's review of its predecessor says they do pretty well. And then there's the issue of panel reliability, only Acoustat seems to have gotten that right.

Specs:

http://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity/Essence%20Electrostatic%20Model%201600/index.html

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 25, 2015 at 19:59:14
Satie
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 I am sure it would make for a great midrange driver and shorn of real bass duties should not be suffering from much compression or bottom out too high up on freq.

The bigger martin Logan hybrid speakers are generally cut off around the same freq. And they do well on midrange dynamics till they give out a bit over 105db.

The Neo8 can go higher in output and are more sensitive for what that's worth to your listening habits.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 05:19:32
josh358
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 Sensitivity doesn't concern me much, but maximum output does! And as usual, no real specifications or measurements. I don't want to give up dynamics. They should be within the envelope of the original design, e.g., the mid should be able to match the output of the other drivers.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 09:06:23
Satie
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 I am not saying the electrostatic midrange would not fit within the original design. But when biamping and bracing you will have a far larger dynamic envelope than the original and the mids would have been the first threhsold on the dynamic limitation once you raised the tweeter XO.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 10:10:58
Norman M
 Replacing the IV-A midrange with that Electrostatic is likely to alter the 'presentation' of a IV-A. Then depending upon one's preferences,
X-O settings and listening room it might make it sound better or worse, more close-up (I'd like that) or distant, but IAE it's unlikely to sound the same. It would be nice to find out, but only if one could get a 'loaner' into their listening room.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 10:40:26
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 Good point. But I'm actually concerned that the mids wouldn't even fit the threshold of the original design. Most recordings, after all, don't contain much by way of deep bass and it's the lower measured frequencies (beginning at 40 Hz) that yield the 103 dB SPL limit.

According the IVa manual the midrange fuses blow at 300W. The manual also says that they will produce more than 110 dB SPL RMS at the listening position with a 200 watt input. So these will do more than 110 dB SPL RMS and brief peaks will go above that. That's significantly higher than the 105 dB SPL of the Martin Logans.

I was wrong about the woofer magnet strength, BTW, according to the manual the IVa woofers have stronger woofer (and midrange) magnets than the IV.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 10:47:26
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 LOL, yes, a loaner would be nice but doesn't look like they're giving a 30 day trial and since the Essences don't seem to have much of a reputation I'm not sure how easy it would be to resell them.

Actually I'm not so concerned about freq response since I plan to correct that (and will have to with IVa's in my tiny room) and dispersion seems adequate with a sharp digital crossover at 3kHz. I'm more concerned about low SPL.



 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 13:19:52
Satie
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 Re Woofer panels Good to know that you can get away with a smaller power amp on the IVa bass. No need to go for 2.5kw/ch...

I didn't remember that the T IVa mids could go that far. I guess mine were already problematic before they finally broke down. But the impression was that they were compressing well below 110db RMS. In any case the Neo8 were subjectively more linear at any practical volume. IIRC onset of distortion on Neo8 is lowest at the 1khz freq where it is 110db, and the onset threshold of distortion is higher than that both above and below that value, I think that is because of the secondary resonance of the driver. The distortion threshold peaks in the midrange something like 115db or so at 500hz (this is from memory so a big grain of salt with that) and falls as you go down towards the primary resonance at 200 and something hz. Above 1khz the output spl limit rises to the 120s db for onset of distortion. For sure at 126 db, where I accidentally got exposure the drivers were both bottoming out on the low end and distorting at the upper end. Still don't understand why my initial urge was to measure SPL rather than turn off the CD. The tinnitus continued for weeks after.

If that is the standard for output capacity then no ESLs need apply. You would need to raise the XO into mid-tweeter range to get that kind of spl capaccity.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 17:50:13
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 I fear you're right about ESL's. I don't need 126 dB levels but my original reason for getting the Tympanis was that they were a good compromise between the transparency of a stat and the slam of a dynamic. The 1-D's never did let me down on dynamics -- well, I did sometimes blow the fuses! So I'd be fine with similar levels. (Of course, the 1-D's had no true ribbon to fail, and the power-hungry region below 500 kHz was all handled by the big woofers.) It's probably too much to expect that a small stat will play at those levels with a 250 Hz. crossover. A purpose-built full height line source stat might, but it would have to be segmented for adequate dispersion at the XO.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 26, 2015 at 18:50:48
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 Then we are thinking along the same lines. That is sort of what I was thinking. I wanted the dynamics and bass of my JBL centuries + Yamaha NS1000 tweeters in a medium room but with the detail of the acoustat 2+2 or ML CLS.

I got most of that at the Apogee dealer on Divas and Scintillas and mini grand hybrids. But those were not in the budget at any point.

Soon after the 20.1 was introduced T IV's and IVa's went into the market and I picked one up thinking that the mods on the asylum could get me there. Then when I was to send my mids to magnepan for repair I came across the Neo8 with its impeccable waterfall plot and ordered a few for testing thinking at first of a small array to replace the mids at low cost, and was floored by the level of detail and spatial performance. A short time later I had line arrays of them so as to lower the XO point to make the most of the drivers as low as they could go, and was really stunned by what I could get out of the mod T IV. .

I am assuming that the current pricing of the T IVa mids vs now rare Neo8 makes that a more difficult choice. So perhaps lightening the OEM panels with less damping coating and lighter foil is an option (to recover damping).

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 27, 2015 at 07:43:04
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 It's still early for me to make a decision since I have yet to open my mids to check on their condition. That won't be for a couple of days now because the area with the speakers in them is covered with plastic to keep it free of the mold from the flood.

I'm guessing that a foil IVa midrange would be very good, but not as good as the Neo 8's -- not as much power handling capacity, without the magical Neo 8 waterfall, and with higher distortion owing to the single-ended magnet assembly. As you say, it becomes more attractive given the current scarcity and high price of Neos.

I can't really think of any other options, other than the RD-50 with its lower output but extra octave of bass response, or building a custom segmented stat (work!) or a midrange ribbon (also work!).

I don't understand why the company that acquired BG stopped making those drivers. There's a market for them, they have the design, so how could it not be profitable to make them?

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 27, 2015 at 09:57:40
Satie
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 I think the company is looking to make the Neo8 and other drivers a branded technology and restricted to OEMs that they are requiring would put the company logo on their products like the intel inside" campaign. And would cut off the DIY market to provide exclusivity.

I don't see that happening since there are alternatives that are "hotter", namely the recent avalanche of AMT drivers. Even available under the generic Dayton brand at parts express.

Also there is a Chinese producer with similar designs to the longer RDs in the same sizes with both normal and Neo magnets. I think the company just does not know what it is doing.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 27, 2015 at 10:08:14
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 But the relatively few DIYers who use these in their own designs aren't going to stop building DIY speakers and buy off the shelf ones. So they'd only be losing market share. And I can't see any use in a company logo, in fact, many of the higher end companies that OEM the BG's wouldn't want to emphasize that they use another company's drivers and at the lower end, I doubt the purchaser much cares.

Didn't know about that Chinese company, are their ripoffs I mean RD's any good?

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on September 27, 2015 at 16:16:34
Satie
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 No idea if they are.

Minimum buys are 50 units so DIYers need not apply. And I suppose if Genesis or another BG client were to import those visual look alikes to the RDs then I am certain they would not advertise it.

 

RE: Essence Electrostatic Speaker System....A BOLD Statement !!.., posted on October 5, 2015 at 09:12:07
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 News about Essence ESL:

North America ESL no longer represents Dutch ESL, for reasons they explain in the following link:

http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/model-1200/

 

News about the Essence Electrostatic Speaker System-- 75% defects, no warranty, posted on October 6, 2015 at 10:59:21
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 News about Essence ESL:

North America ESL no longer represents Dutch ESL, for reasons they explain in the following link:

http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/model-1200/

 

RE: News about the Essence Electrostatic Speaker System-- 75% defects, no warranty, posted on October 6, 2015 at 11:05:53
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 An amendment:

In their announcement of disassociation from their Dutch supplier, Essence USA just took down their claims about the supplier's 75% defective systems rate and withdrawal of warranty. Maybe some fear of liable action?..... I don't know.

In any event, the original Essence ESLs are no longer distributed in North America

 

RE: News about the Essence Electrostatic Speaker System-- 75% defects, no warranty, posted on October 6, 2015 at 11:21:05
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 I get a bad feeling about this guy (they may call it a company, but it is essentially one guy). I am really glad I didn't move on these, especially now with my pawn shop Acoustats, but even without those I'd want to go in a different direction. Maggie 1.7 are the bargain planar, and made in America to boot.

 

All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 7, 2015 at 20:53:58
audiophile919
 They now sell Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that go down to 20 Hz! for $2K! Here's a picture of these all new speakers >>>

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 7, 2015 at 22:09:26
audiophile919
 Here's more info on these ALL NEW Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers >>>

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 8, 2015 at 05:52:34
josh358
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 Those specs look too good to be true!

Judging by the specs, this is a different model:

http://www.audiostatic.com/models.html

I gather from the patent that their trick is to add some elastic spacers between diaphragm and stator(s) that prevent diaphragm instability at higher voltages:

http://www.google.com/patents/US4105877

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 8, 2015 at 08:21:50
audiophile919
 Here's a better picture of these ALL NEW! Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers >>>

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 8, 2015 at 09:01:32
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 Thanks

You mean the transformer box doesn't go in front? :-)

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 07:59:20
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Here is the detail covered in the AudioStatic patent. Basically a small amount of silicon applied to to diaphragm in various spots down the center of the panel. This allows lower diaphragm tension and longer excursion without the diaphragm bottoming out on the stators.

AudioStatic has been using this approach for some time. The pic is of a 30+ year old ES-100 speaker.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 08:23:33
josh358
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 Any idea why others aren't using it now that the patent has expired? Or are they?

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 08:57:14
kentaja
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 It is amazing what one can patent!

It is a neat idea but there are number of ways to achieve the same thing. And there are so many variables producing a stat what might work in one design might not work so well in another.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 15:32:17
josh358
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 I'm wondering how they achieved the claimed 20 Hz response from a small stat -- if not this, what?

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 16:04:38
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 20Hz in a stat of that size? How far down at that point? Claims are one thing lets see some data, some frequency response charts, etc.

Highly skeptical that the speaker does 20Hz, or anything close to that point, with any kind of authority, output. My Audiostatic ES-100 use a bigger panel of the same basic design and they don't get anywhere close to that. Perhaps 35Hz.

My Soundlabs won't do that kind of low end. Close.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers being sold there now..., posted on October 10, 2015 at 18:02:29
josh358
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 It does sound outlandish, doesn't it? And it's a better spec than the model listed on their site. Which was why I was trying to figure out what they've done -- if the spec is real, that is.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 21, 2015 at 19:49:58
audiophile919
 They will not have these new Audiostatic speakers in stock until December 2015 and they say these new speakers are a major breakthrough that do not need any ac power !

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 04:37:39
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 I still don't see how he's getting 20 Hz out of a box that's 11" wide!

Disappointed though to see that the highs beam. The power response of a loudspeaker should be uniform.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 07:05:29
Norman M
 All that plus being 70" tall and wall mountable for ~$2K might have Magnepan 'shaking in their boots'.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 09:30:10
josh358
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 I guess that would depend on whether direct sales prove a popular way of selling planar speakers. And of course on whether they meet expectations -- if he can really do 20 Hz at a reasonable SPL in such a narrow stat, I'll be impressed!

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 10:35:01
audiophile919
 They will have Sound Lab "shaking in their boots TOO" IF these all new Audiostatic Electrostatic Speakers can GO all the way DOWN to 20 Hz FOR 2k !!

 

Some of the Space Coast Audio Society members are going to Demo these all new Audiostatic speakers!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 11:59:28
audiophile919
 I heard on another forum that some of the Space Coast Audio Society members in the Central Florida area are going to go Demo these all new Audiostatic speakers when Essence gets a pair in to Demo! The Space Coast Audio Society E-Mail is vgl@cfl.rr.com and their phone number is 386-423-4650

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 12:28:11
Norman M
 I wouldn't want to gamble $2K on a speaker that needs to be sent across the ocean for attention. Additionally at that price, how much profit can they possibly earn? It seems like a losing proposition and if they go out of business, it's back to Maggieland for any of us.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 17:48:52
josh358
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 Yeah, they're going to have to do something about repairs/warranty coverage.

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 22, 2015 at 19:27:47
audiophile919
 Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers made in the past have all been rock solid so I don't think your going have to worry about repair work on these new panels for many many.. many years!! Maybe in 30 years or.. 40 years from now BUT then.. your going to be ready for new speakers anyway!..

 

RE: All new Audiostatic Electrostatic speakers that DO NOT need any AC POWER!, posted on October 23, 2015 at 08:51:41
josh358
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 That's good to know.

 

Ben Peters newest design is based off of..., posted on October 23, 2015 at 13:35:43
audiophile919
 Ben Peters newest design is based off of his former Audiostatic ES-500...more info in thread below...

 

RE: Ben Peters newest design is based off of..., posted on October 23, 2015 at 14:41:17
josh358
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 Thanks, interesting information!

 

Ben Peters newest design could be based off of his Threshold ES-500's...., posted on October 25, 2015 at 17:01:36
audiophile919
 Maybe Ben Peters newest Electrostatic speakers are a improved version of his Threshold ES-500 speakers...

 

RE: Ben Peters newest design could be based off of his Threshold ES-500's...., posted on October 25, 2015 at 17:10:24
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 Good guess, someone has already confirmed that.

 

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