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Mye for Acoustat?

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Posted on February 24, 2015 at 06:26:13

Mendel
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Has anyone ever had Mye stands built for their Acoustats? I know some make a new reinforced frame for their panels, but anyone try Mye? My Spectra 22 look almost the same size as 3.6's. The existing frame is pretty wobbly. When I play bass heavy music I can feel the frame vibrating. I think Mye stands would have a very beneficial affect.
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RE: Mye for Acoustat?

Sondek

19:13:06 02/24/15

I will respectfully disagree

E-Stat

11:27:02 02/25/15

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Sondek

16:23:14 02/25/15

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RE: Mye for Acoustat?

Sondek

19:13:06 02/24/15

I will respectfully disagree

E-Stat

11:27:02 02/25/15

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Sondek

16:23:14 02/25/15

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E-Stat

16:54:44 02/25/15

Mark Man

13:39:15 02/24/15

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Ferrstein

12:02:12 02/24/15

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pictureguy

01:00:11 02/27/15

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Ferrstein

06:15:44 02/27/15

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Cameraman

17:10:11 02/25/15

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Ferrstein

06:13:43 02/27/15

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Sondek

19:34:09 02/24/15

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Ferrstein

06:16:38 02/27/15

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 24, 2015 at 12:02:12

Ferrstein
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I listen on suspended hardwood floors. I've found that mine sound best when decoupled. I use Symposium roller balls on mine per the attached picture. I've since gone with the HDSE 7075 aluminum Rollerblock Juniors. To my ear decoupling the speakers from the floor makes the bass so much more natural and less boomy. Much more extended, too.

My take is that the mylar is so many orders of magnitude lighter than the frames that you don't need to worry too much about counter-movement of the frame. What you are feeling in the frame is likely resonance, and I doubt the MYE stands will stop that. IMO the vibration/resonance isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Email Grant..., posted on February 24, 2015 at 13:39:15

Mark Man
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One thing I have realized dealing with Grant, he is pretty much game for anything...IMHO he would tackle custom orders, delivering good value and keeping the price down...

I know he has done many non-Maggie flat panel brands...I thought they were listed somewhere on his website, but I could not find them on a quick search...
Good luck...
thanks
Mark

http://www.myesound.com/Home_Page.html

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 24, 2015 at 19:13:06

Sondek
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Not sure they'd really benefit all that much from more rigid framing. It's not like you have some huge moving mass working against itself and rocking back and forth. I spoke to Mike Savuto once about more rigidly fixing them. He told me that he'd essentially done that with his Monitor 8's that he put together by fixing the top of them to the ceiling and spiking the bottoms. He told me that he felt like they did not sound as good that way. Would sure want to do some kind of proof of concept before making that kind of investment in custom stands.

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 24, 2015 at 19:34:09

Sondek
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Hey, Kevin. I didn't recognize yer handle at first. We need an excuse to visit Mike in OKC again one of these days. Hope you've been well. How's your collection of station wagons these days? Still got them?

Best,

Mike

I will respectfully disagree, posted on February 25, 2015 at 11:27:02
E-Stat Audiophile Posts: 37645 Joined: May 12, 2000 Contributor Since: April 5, 2002	Not sure they'd really benefit all that much from more rigid framing. I find the contrary to the case with my Sound Lab U-1s which employ a rigid steel frame for the cores. It's not like you have some huge moving mass working against itself and rocking back and forth. At low frequencies, you most certainly are trying to move large volumes of air. Mass counts.

RE: I will respectfully disagree, posted on February 25, 2015 at 16:23:14

Sondek
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So, not to argue, but I'd say the jury is still out on the rigidity of the frames question. I mean does SL use steel because it might somehow be cheaper than wood joinery, and have you ever heard the SLs with wooden frames? You may well be right - I don't know. I will concede on your other point. I hadn't really considered it from that point of view. I was coming more from the pistonic action of voice coils. Although the air being moved is spread out over quite a large area compared to traditional speakers. Would be fun to experiment and find out. Unfortunately, that ain't me. I've got a near-mint pair of Monitor 4's and am not about to mess with that.

RE: I will respectfully disagree, posted on February 25, 2015 at 16:54:44

E-Stat
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I mean does SL use steel because it might somehow be cheaper than wood joinery,

It is substantially more expensive. The $45k U-1s use the same cores as the $31k A-1s. I'm not entirely sure, but the U-1s may also incorporate the several thousand dollar "hot rod" enhancement to the backplates, so the difference may not be quite as much as it seems.

and have you ever heard the SLs with wooden frames?

Yes.

edit: provided links

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 25, 2015 at 17:10:11
Cameraman Audiophile Posts: 396 Location: 33701 Joined: September 25, 2011	Question? Is that felt under the granite? if so what is the density I need to pick some up Thanx Thanx

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 27, 2015 at 01:00:11

pictureguy
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What will have an effect is vibes being transmitted from the mylar TO the frame, not getting absorbed and BOUNCING back. (reflected, might be the 'better' term) This will muddy things up, for sure.
I personally champion high rigidity BY DESIGN coupled with low mass. Use of natural composites, like WOOD, for example, help spread the spectrum of vibes out and diminish nodes.

I would personally LOVE to experiment with 3/4" PLYBOO, which is Bamboo Plywood. I have a bunch of samples, all about 4"x4"x3/4" and the 'neopolitan' weighs about 25% MORE than any of the other samples which all hover around 100grams. =<4oz.
That stuff has a (naturally) high silicon content and tends to EAT even the hardest tooling. Keep your stuff sharp for best and safest results.
Too much is never enough

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 27, 2015 at 06:13:43
Ferrstein Audiophile Posts: 163 Location: Beautiful, Sunny Cleveland, Ohio Joined: June 10, 2003	Man, I do not remember the density of the felt. It is very stiff, though. It's the same stuff Mike Elliott used for the Counterpoint circuit board damping at AltaVista Audio. IIRC it was up in the 20 range. It does help "unboom" the bass on my suspended hardwood floor. Next up is a DIY Symposium type shelf to replace the granite. Really just as a comparison... I actually quite like the granite.

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 27, 2015 at 06:15:44
Ferrstein Audiophile Posts: 163 Location: Beautiful, Sunny Cleveland, Ohio Joined: June 10, 2003	I, too have had good results with light but rigid. As I stated below, I do plan to try something other than the Granite for comparison. I have the stuff to build a Symposium-esque shelf out of Aluminum, Gatorfoam, MDF, and Masonite. Just need to find time to glue it all up!

RE: Mye for Acoustat?, posted on February 27, 2015 at 06:16:38
Ferrstein Audiophile Posts: 163 Location: Beautiful, Sunny Cleveland, Ohio Joined: June 10, 2003	Hi Mike! Yes, an OKC trip would be awesome! The wagons are great. The fleet is 5 strong at the moment but I need to put one up on the auction block. The wife is getting impatient...

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