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EQ and maggies

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Posted on September 23, 2014 at 11:04:36
Dudly
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Joined: April 18, 2012
 Does anyone use an EQ with their maggies? I have the old MGllBs and a QSC GX3 power to them Yammie preamp. I was just wondering if anyone had tried one and if it made any difference?

 

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RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 23, 2014 at 14:05:26
marcob
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 Do you mean an equalizer?
Marco

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 23, 2014 at 14:27:26
Dudly
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 Yes

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 23, 2014 at 14:46:23
marcob
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 Many years ago, a friend of mine with a professional sound analyzer checked my mg2b output; he made equalization curves/slopes, and the result was a more homogeneous sound, but he told me that was a compensation for the envinronment/pre/ampli, not for a lack in the speakers.
Sorry, probably not so useful for you...

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 23, 2014 at 15:39:09
Dudly
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 Thank you for the information.

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 23, 2014 at 21:31:37
Satie
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 I used a primitive PC digital RTA and EQ and an analog passive EQ. Both were useful in correcting for room modes. The digital one was obviously jittery and grainy in the worst way the White Instruments studio EQ was very transparent but somewhat thin sounding and softened the deep bass no matter what the EQ setting. Definitely helped in clarifying the bass, but finding better positioning made the difference too small to justify the sonic costs.

It is helpful to have the room correction and then use the sound of the corrected EQ to guide you in treating the room and in positioning the speakers. Only if you have intransigent room issues would the EQ be useful as a permanent part of your system.

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 24, 2014 at 08:01:16
Norman M
 Now, if it were only possible to 'EQ' my ears? (Yea, I know hearing aids.)

Even if young in years, isn't it similar to vision all persons' being different and for many, imperfect?

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 24, 2014 at 09:20:04
Swamis Cat
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Location: Illinois
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 Just slightly off topic... The interesting thing about Maggies is how you can effectively equalize them without an equalizer via room location. They effectively bond with the room, and one way to get different equalization is to adjust the specifics of the room/speaker interaction.

Moving toe in by just an inch or two or moving the speakers a small amount dwarfs most component changes* to my ears. Considering that we can move the speakers by not just inches but by five to eight feet, while also reversing tweeters, the equalization potential is truly remarkable. This may not apply of course to those with real world imitations on placement due to living or theater considerations.

Sorry if I am getting us off topic though.

* although the absolute difference is often smaller to my ears than moving the speakers the benefit is that the component change is more consistent across multiple positions

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 24, 2014 at 12:14:06
Satie
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 Norm, there is an objective measurement and you can check what your preference looks like in objective terms. Mine looks a little like a Fletcher Munson curve just with less high end energy.

Swami, The Limage position does much to EQ the setup as you adjust the gap between the speaker and the sidewall during the setup.

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 24, 2014 at 12:47:11
Norman M
 Satie: Interesting and thanks.

Swamis: I agree with all you have written (with the only exception being that it's off-topic). Something which I've noticed over the years and doesn't get much attention is that if your a chair sits closer to the floor, one can increase (emphasize the bass). I'm inclined to believe that listeners using microphones for equalization should be able to pick that up simply by vertical positioning of their microphones. (Needless to add, 'ear level' depends upon a seat's height and for which there is no 'absolute').

 

RE: EQ and maggies, posted on September 24, 2014 at 13:09:05
JBen
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 SwamisC, you are not off topic, at all. I believe you have mentioned the first rule. So far as I've been able to observe, the most successful approaches begin by exhausting each and every "practical" speaker/room configurations FIRST.

 

RE: Yes!, posted on September 30, 2014 at 07:57:05
BigguyinATL
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Joined: April 10, 2002
 I use DSP power amplifiers and EQ the high frequencies ( a little down 8kHz and above. I have a setting yo and or remove the "Presence dip" on the upper mid frequencies. and I do a little dabbling at the MMG low end hump.
"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat" - Confucius

 

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