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Maggies, Power and v12r

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Posted on September 20, 2014 at 17:32:34
tz7
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 I usea pair of AES Six Pacs to drive my maggie 12s.

If I purchased a very similar amp where the primary difference was that the new amp increased the power from 50 wpc to 100 wpc, could this lead to a significant improvement in the sound? Or would the music just be louder?

I always heard that maggies love power and am trying to understand whether the amount of power itself would provide a benefit.

I am thinking of buying a pair of v12r monoblocks which apparently are voiced similar to the six pacs.

 

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RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on September 20, 2014 at 18:51:09
neolith
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 You would need to go to 500 wpc to double the output volume so the short answer is that a larger amp will not play significantly louder. A larger amp gives you better control of the transients without clipping. If you want better sound get a better amp not necessarily a more powerful amp. As a general rule however most Maggie's do better with an amp that produces 200 WBC at 8 ohms. More importantly you want an amp with a hefty power supply that can double down (200 wpc at 8 ohms, 400 wpc at 4 ohms - at least that's true for a SS amp). If the amp is not rated by the manufacturer at 4 ohms, then you don't want it.



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RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on September 21, 2014 at 00:35:27
Satie
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 If you are sitting just below the threshold to have transients with sufficient impact then you will definitely get allot from doubling your power. Particularly with tubes.
BTW - mono V12 sound just like stereo V12 and the 6 pacs. The only real difference in sound is the power.

The most impact is by going with dual powered subwoofers and cutting off the main speakers at 80'ish hz.

 

RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on October 6, 2014 at 12:30:27
BigguyinATL
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 As Satie said -- if you listen at levels that may occationally cause your 50W amplifier to clip. Not hard with inefficient Maggies. Then a 100 watt amplifier will sound better.

As Neolith said, a 100 Watt amp does not play noticeably louder than a 50 Watt Amp.


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RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on October 11, 2014 at 07:29:41
tz7
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 I have never heard "clipping" with my six pacs in 10 years. So if I don't hear clipping more power isn't likely to improve the maggies presentation, transients...etc.

I love the six pacs voicing and energy and don't want to mess that up. That is why I was thinking of going with v12r monos.

 

RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on October 11, 2014 at 08:07:23
Satie
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 These tend to "soft clip" so that it sounds like the instruments are at the top of their output and are straining rather than sounding like a clipping amp.

That said, doubling the power on a current hungry speaker will have its benefits even if you don't drive them loud. If it isn't a financial strain then go to V12 monos.

 

RE: Maggies, Power and v12r , posted on October 11, 2014 at 09:50:15
Grimace
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 If the V12Rs in question are the mono versions they'll put out 100w in triode and 200w in ultra-linear into either 4 or 8 ohms. In UL they'd deliver significantly more power than the six packs. I have a stereo V12r and it's pretty darned powerful as tube amps go.

 

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