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Ping kentaja

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Posted on March 10, 2011 at 13:11:27
George S. Roland
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Location: N W Pennsylvania
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Hey Kent!

I have made considerable progress with my Gradient SW-63s. I got the offending one apart and not only are there radial cracks in the surrounds (what I could see through the mesh with a flashlight) but also significant detachment of the surround from the cone. When I push gently in on the cone I am getting a stiff, gritty feeling and a scraping sound, maybe voice coil rubbing? Anyway, I feel I am way beyond a refoam job.

I was in communication with Jorma Salmi at Gradient and he put me on to a replacement driver with a rubber surround that they had tested and found worked well. I think it'll cost me only a little more for four new drivers than to pay shipping both ways and $200.00 for a refoaming. Seems the way to go.

Right now, I am trying to scrape off the goo that was squeezed around the underside of the speaker's rim and used to dampen and keep the metal mesh from rattling. It's going to take awhile.

I am wondering, in your experience, what might be a good replacement for this goo? It seems like a silicone compound. It's sticky and elastic but has not hardened completely. It's still a bit flexible. Have you run across anything like this?

Thanks,

George

 

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RE: Ping kentaja, posted on March 10, 2011 at 19:48:43
kentaja
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I think I would take the new replacement recommended by Gradient. If your drivers also need new voice coils that will probably double the cost versus just refoaming.

I do not know what they use for the black goo compound. I have never gotten that far inside the Gradient. The pairs I have seen had woofers in good condition. Perhaps the factory can recommend an appropriate material.

 

RE: Ping kentaja, posted on March 11, 2011 at 09:49:09
David Yost
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Location: Atlanta
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In the auto repair business, we occasionally use a black silicon rubber sealant that comes in a handy "caulk-gun" format. It cures pretty quickly, but remains flexible, sticks to any clean surface and doesn't shrink. I bet your local NAPA or Advance auto parts store carries it.

 

RE: Ping kentaja, posted on March 12, 2011 at 10:59:33
teaboo
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Location: East Coast
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I need to overhaul my SW63s also. Can you post what drivers you
are using or e-mail me model?

 

RE: Ping kentaja, posted on March 12, 2011 at 18:20:34
George S. Roland
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Location: N W Pennsylvania
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Thank you so much for this tip. In my Gradients, a bead of this goo was applied around the baffle to sit under the woofer's metal rim. It is tedious to scrape it off, but not too difficult.

It was also used under the metal mesh covering the drivers to prevent rattling, and I will definitely want to obtain some. What you describe sounds like a workable solution. I appreciate your offering this suggestion!

Best,

George

 

Crossover for Gradient SW63 Quad ESL 63, posted on April 4, 2014 at 05:38:15
robn7777777@aol.com
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Location: London
Joined: April 3, 2014
Hi and greetings to all,

I am new here but have seen some interesting discussions about the Quad/Gradient combination.

The ESL63s are my favourite of all the speakers I have heard and I am hoping to add the SW63s.

I bought a pair of very old shabby SW63s (serial number 5) that I have replaced the driver surrounds on and have two power amps waiting to go!

My sources are Michell Gyro SE and an Audiolab CDQ.

Finally the question - what are the best crossover options within a limited budget? I've seen the MT Audio design (but not sure if he is still active) and wonder how this would compare with something like a miniDSP?

thank you
Robin

 

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