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PP Amp Input Stage

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Posted on October 18, 2015 at 11:56:55
dhieber
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Kevin, referring to your push-pull amp input stages, you said you "wanted something as simple as could be made that had phase-splitting capability and lacked the soul stealing plate resistors." I wonder what in your experience are the measurable and sonic differences between a CCS loaded and a resistor loaded differential pair (assuming it is cap-coupled with transformer phase splitting)? CCS plate loading should have lower distortion and provide good power supply hum and noise rejection. Resistor plate loading with a CCS at the common cathodes forces dynamic balance and feeding the stage with a shunt regulator should provide good power supply isolation.

BTW, I think resistor plate loading with a CCS in the tail as implemented in your ST70 kit sounds pretty good!

Thanks.

 

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RE: PP Amp Input Stage, posted on October 19, 2015 at 16:34:44
KevinC
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Thanks for your kind words about the ST-70 upgrade. I, too, think that it sounds pretty good, but the new input stage sounds better.

I made a comparison between resistor plate loads and current source plate loads and the gain in clarity with the current source loading was compelling. The frequency response was better in the high frequencies with the current sources, but that difference was well about 20KHz. This choice was sonically motivated.

I had a "free" negative voltage supply in the ST-70 using the original fixed bias voltage tap, but, in general, most tube amp power transformers lack that extra winding, so I settled for a "short tail" on the new input stage. Even so, it's an easy matter to add a negative supply, a simple current source, and a couple of 100K resistors to get a fully differential input stage.


Kevin Carter
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Thanks, posted on October 20, 2015 at 15:15:02
dhieber
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Thanks Kevin. I don't understand the role of the additional current source when you add a negative supply to get a fully differential input stage.

 

Question, posted on October 22, 2015 at 09:52:19
dhieber
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When you add a negative supply, are the current source and resistors used as a simple shunt regulator?

 

RE: Question, posted on October 26, 2015 at 09:03:49
KevinC
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You could call them that, but the impedance is not low as with a conventional shunt regulator.

Kevin Carter
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RE: Thanks, posted on October 26, 2015 at 09:12:48
KevinC
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The negative supply under the common cathodes of the input stage forces the two triodes to share the current set by the adjustment of the cathode current source between them, making the currents through the triodes an accurate reflection of the differential grid voltage (until input stage slipping is reached).

Kevin Carter
K&K Audio
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