Goodbye Pork Pie Hat

IMO yes and yes..., posted on August 8, 2022 at 23:03:40
musetap Audiophile Posts: 31879 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	Spirit wise, Beck's version captures a bit of jazz, though the purists may disagree. But THAT song is a blues, jazz be damned. Interestingly Mingus FINALLY used guitars in 1977 on Three or Four Shades of Blue in different arrangements of some of his well known tunes including: View YouTube Video "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

RE: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, posted on August 9, 2022 at 09:57:46

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When someone asks if something is Jazz, I often think of this.

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"Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's what's so simple about it." - Yogi Berra.

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https://nicholaspayton.com/on-why-jazz-isnt-cool-anymore/ayt

RE: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, posted on August 9, 2022 at 10:01:35

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Or this.

Ciao,

"Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's what's so simple about it." - Yogi Berra.

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alph Ellison: The Golden Age of Jazz

This is definitely not., posted on August 9, 2022 at 13:19:21

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RE: Jazz, posted on August 9, 2022 at 13:38:35

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I think "jazz" is best understood not as a thing or a style but as a process or a musical approach that occurs within a specific social space involving the interactions of the musicians, audience, and critics. Coltrane makes jazz out of pop tune "My Favorite Things" while Jeff Beck makes a rock performance from "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat," a jazz tune. This is not saying Beck isn't a gifted musician, but he operates in a very different social space with different musical methods.

Prefer this....., posted on August 9, 2022 at 15:06:13

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Swinging Chilean band with a horn section and good singers.

Not a fan of wailing distorted guitars playing familiar licks

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RE: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, posted on August 9, 2022 at 23:04:12

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Jazz is improvised and felt in the moment. It's not charts or learned licks. If it's played the same way every night but with a "jazz sound", then it's not jazz. Jazz is playing/singing the notes for the story, not for the sound effects. Good jazz musicians make you feel they're feeling every note, even if they're just waiting to finish the set.

I appreciate Jeff Beck's talent, but it's improvised rock, not jazz.

Just my opinion.

RE: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, posted on August 17, 2022 at 19:52:39
Flatwound Audiophile Posts: 58 Location: Georgia Joined: January 27, 2011	Just last night I listened to a fine interpretation by Rahsaan Roland Kirk. Now, to me, that was pretty jazzy.

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Goodbye Pork Pie Hat

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