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Do you have to put down one player to compliment another? nt, posted on June 5, 2018 at 21:01:43
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Who is the anointed one?...NT, posted on June 5, 2018 at 21:17:51
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RE: Who is the anointed one?...NT, posted on June 5, 2018 at 23:07:46
HarlemAirShaft	A quick internet search led me to a religious website called The Trumpet, which talks of two anointed ones; and then to another religious website declaring that "Trump will become the trumpet". So I can't prove it, but this seems like a poor inside joke at Trump's expense. It is some excellent Freddie Hubbard, but Dexter is clearly the star here. YMMV

RE: Who is the anointed one?...NT, posted on June 6, 2018 at 00:40:59
Tweaker456	Nothing to do with that. His initials are WM.

What's this saying exactly?, posted on June 6, 2018 at 01:07:59

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I don't know who the trumpeter is on this track, but for WM I read Marsalis. So is this saying that ?? Freddy Hubbard played without the ultimate depths of emotional connection? Or the other way around? Or.....?

Anyway, an interesting point of view but what difference does a few moody ballads make to a career in jazz? Miles could play moody ballads but that alone doesn't make him a trumpeter you want to hear again and again and again. Same with Chet Baker, a master of the moody ballad. How many moody ballads do you get in a jazz set anyway - probably one at most? I don't remember Dizzy for his moody ballads - he probably played a few pretty well but that wasn't what his reputation was based on.

If I want to get my real kicks out of an outstanding trumpeter in full flight, creating great runs and soaring above the music then there's several I can think of, from Freddy Hubbard onwards or backwards in time. Whether they poured their hearts out once in a while in a moody ballad isn't really something that would bother me.

+1, posted on June 6, 2018 at 03:48:44
D Harvey Manufacturer Posts: 5563 Location: SE Michigan Joined: May 30, 2001	This place would kinda suck if it was a constant rock-throwing fest. Criticism is one thing, even harsh criticism. This is starting to seem more like gratuitous bashing. dh

William Morris was a great, posted on June 6, 2018 at 07:57:22
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RE: What's this saying exactly?, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:00:39
Tweaker456	It's Freddie. I would say he poured his heart out on some of his fast stuff also. As to what difference (a few) moody ballads make, I would say all the difference in the world. T456

RE: Do you have to put down one player to compliment another? nt, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:07:17
Tweaker456	In this case, yes. I've been well behaved here since about August 2017. You really can't ask for more than that. T456

Damn good solo...., posted on June 6, 2018 at 14:50:05
andy evans Audiophile Posts: 4382 Joined: October 20, 2000	You're certainly right - it's a great solo. Freddie was so inventive. I guess ballads do matter - just thinking of John Coltrane's "Ballads", one of my favourite CDs. We think of him as a guy who played fast, which he did, but his ballads were beautiful. Archie Shepp was another great ballad player.

I thought he was the cigarette guy..., posted on June 6, 2018 at 19:07:46
D Harvey Manufacturer Posts: 5563 Location: SE Michigan Joined: May 30, 2001	... oh no, wait, that was Philip Morris. dh

RE: William Morris was a great, posted on June 9, 2018 at 10:31:31
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