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Black Cable Tie Tweak redux

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Posted on December 24, 2012 at 05:38:49
Black Cable Tie Tweak. Just in time for Christmas!

Here's a fun little project. Count the number of drain spouts on your house or apt building - drain outs are the long, 6" diameter vertical metal pipes that run from the roof gutters to the ground. You might know them better as waterspouts, downspouts, roof drain pipes or some other arcane word or terminology so don't bust my balls. Obtain enough 14" black cable ties from Home Depot so you'll have one black cable tie for each drain spout. IIRC 14" black cable ties come in a pack of 10 which is almost certainly enough unless you live in Buckingham Palace. If you encounter a drain spout that's too wide for the 14" cable tie, use two cable ties per drain spout.

Place all 14" black cable ties in the freezer overnight (about 12 hours). Remove cable ties the next day and allow them to thaw to room temperature. Secure one black cable tie snugly around each drain spout at a point approximately one foot up from the bottom opening of the pipe near the ground. After all cable ties are in place go listen to some favorite recordings.

Cheers

 

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And then what?, posted on January 17, 2013 at 12:39:36
rlw
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How on earth is the process of attaching cable ties to downspouts supposed to improve your system's sound quality? And what was the testing process used that displays these improvements?

Honestly, Geoff, your shit gets whackier with every passing day. Don't you have a real gig? You know, one where you provide a product or service that actually does *something* to improve the sound of someone's system.

Keep up the, ummm, "good work"...

-RW-
-RW-

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 17, 2013 at 13:42:09
Tony Lauck
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I didn't give this tweak a serious thought.

 



 

(Because I don't have any gutters or downspouts).

Tony Lauck

"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:52:59
That's too bad. It's an *extremely* effective tweak. He not busy being born is busy dying.

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:25:47
Go back to Hydrogen Audio, birds of a feather. You tarried too long at Audio Associates. pity.

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 20, 2013 at 12:18:05
Tony Lauck
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Did you scroll down and read my concealed punch line?

Tony Lauck

"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 20, 2013 at 12:51:24
Apparently not. How can anyone not have rain spouts?

 

RE: And then what?, posted on January 20, 2013 at 13:05:00
Tony Lauck
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Rain spouts are uncommon in Vermont, in that they don't work so well in the Winter with heavy snow and ice dams on the roofs.

Tony Lauck

"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar

 

Questions, posted on January 27, 2013 at 13:22:43
Winston Smith
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Downspouts in New Zealand are usually made from plastic (PVC) and not metal (which your post seems to assume.) They also extend into the earth on many homes, with underground exit pipes, and rural venues usually have these feeding into a water collection tank somewhere.

Given all that, and what you claim to know of the reasons for this tweak's alleged efficacy, is there any applicability down under in the aforementioned circumstances?

And for those of us sans 14" (350mm) black cable ties, will white work just as well? Yellow? Blue? And can they be daisy-chained if not of sufficient length as singles? Is the exact length critical? Trim off the excess or leave?

(Curious Kiwis and their incessant questions, questions, questions........ )

 

Answers, posted on January 28, 2013 at 06:42:43
Since the cable ties themselves are plastic I see no reason why they wouldn't work for plastic downspouts, actually some here are plastic, too, i.e., I do not think they have to be metal.

I have only tried black, so I know black works, dunno about other colors. You could always obtain white ties then use a black Marker to color them black.


You can leave the tail on the cable tie or snip it off, as you prefer.

You might need longer cables ties in some cases as diameter of drainspouts vary. Maybe you can find 20" black ties. Cable ties can be daisy chained if you can't find longer ties.

As for how this tweak works, I don't know.

 

RE: "As for how this tweak works, I don't know.", posted on January 28, 2013 at 11:25:57
cdb
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So...... How did you happen to try it, or what were the thought processes that led to trying it?

 

RE: "As for how this tweak works, I don't know.", posted on January 28, 2013 at 13:04:37
I stumbled across the black cable tie tweak hidden in an obscure article in one of the PWB newsletters about ten years ago. I tried the black cable tie tweak right after reading the article, most likely because it seemed so preposterous.

 

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