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Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?

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Posted on July 26, 2015 at 05:51:58
The ultimate "lifestyle" speaker, perhaps?

Voxativ must be setting a record of some kind with their Ampeggio Due field-coil speakers. Is this the most expensive single-driver home hifi speaker in existence?

Has anyone heard them? What did you think?

 

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Very cool design, posted on July 26, 2015 at 06:21:51
Craiger56
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And for a hundred bucks I'm in!

 

RE: Very cool design, posted on July 26, 2015 at 08:16:37
I'm pretty sure you are kidding, but just in case: That's a comma ($100,000) not a period ($100.00).

 

RE: Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?, posted on July 26, 2015 at 08:20:42
Awe-d-o-file
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And people rag on cable manufacturers and the like.........I know there is much more than frequency response when it comes to evaluating a speaker but I'm sorry for 100K if you're going to give a response spec it needs to be plus or minus "X" dB otherwise I think you're hiding something.

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RE: Very cool design, posted on July 26, 2015 at 08:50:32
amnesiac
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100 grand and you get a whizzer cone. now way. people starve while people spend 100 grand on a speaker with a wizzer cone.

now 70grand for a Audio Note's ONGAKU that would be money well spent.

yea and the diy guy that invented that design and put it up on the net around ten years ago. I bet they didnt send him any money.

 

I wouldn't expect good measurements, posted on July 26, 2015 at 10:19:31
Jon L
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from a design like this. I couldn't help but smile when I saw the claimed FR of 25 to 20K Hz, which is obviously way optimistic. Unfortunately, the pricing is even more optimistic.

On the other hand, I have heard this speaker before, and I must say it is magical in the midrange, especially male vocals.

 

Question, posted on July 26, 2015 at 11:04:24
Do you remember hearing any undesirable noises coming from the down-firing folded horns? How low would you say the bass really did go?

 

RE: Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?, posted on July 26, 2015 at 16:18:53
PaulF70
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6moons said the Rethm speakers at maybe 10% of that price were better.

 

Link?, posted on July 26, 2015 at 18:50:53
I searched for 6Moons Voxativ reviews but was only able to find the "Ampeggio" model review - a much different model than the "Ampeggio Due" I referenced above.

 

Stereophiles in-room measurements of the much less expensive...., posted on July 26, 2015 at 21:46:35
Voxativ Amppegio were extremely flat from the mid-bass right through the treble. Many multi-way speakers can't come close to the linearity of this in-room response.

 

RE: Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?, posted on July 27, 2015 at 07:00:31
SETdude
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Yeah, but you don't get the bragging rights. :-)

 

RE: Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?, posted on July 27, 2015 at 08:10:45
Bill the K
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Rethms are very nice speakers. Perhaps do not play very loud and the bass trails off but are clean and friendly.

Cheers
Bill

 

RE: Stereophiles in-room measurements of the much less expensive...., posted on July 27, 2015 at 16:50:12
Awe-d-o-file
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I believe it, I'm not against single driver speakers in fact I like them and realize they have some advantages.

However, they're $100K give me more numbers. Again I realize the role the room plays.


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Specs, sumacs..., posted on July 27, 2015 at 19:32:00
Oh, I'm not an apologist for single driver speakers. Never heard, or owned, one that I liked. Just making the point that the rather one dimensional in room frequency response that Stereophile measured was very impressive. It's the dynamic range where I feel they really fall down.

That end of the market is more like religion than commerce; specs are a needless encumbrance.

 

Comma versus decimal point, posted on July 28, 2015 at 09:04:30
Just so you're clear, the poster raised a valid point. In Europe, it's common practice to use a comma where, in America, we would use a decimal point (the period character). For example, 15,50 in Europe is the numerical written equivalent of 15.50 in the US. So, when you write $100,00, you can expect a reader to be confused or to make fun of your lack of attention to important details. You may have come from Europe and erroneously used the comma out of habit. Or, you were sloppy on a key point of your post.

:)

 

RE: Comma versus decimal point, posted on July 28, 2015 at 11:06:16
Sorry about the typo. I did not even notice it until you pointed it out. The price is $100,000 USD, as I understand it.

I really not a Comma Chameleon.

 

Heard them on three different sets in munich, posted on July 28, 2015 at 13:30:30
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And while they were interesting in some ways, they were not so much better than a lot of other back loaded horn speakers and certainly not 100K better! I think a good two-way horn speaker with a proper horn tweeter will outperform it, even though I prize coherence.

 

RE: Question, posted on July 28, 2015 at 13:34:40
morricab
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My Odeons are using down firing folded horns and I would say that I get down to the low 40s without a problem with them. Of course mine use a 10 inch woofer and a relatively long horn...the midbass and upper bass are particularly tuneful and with impact but very controlled.

 

Fleece - should be used on inside of enclosure, posted on July 28, 2015 at 15:49:50
Edp
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not one does to the consumer with a arrogant price like that.


To put that price in perspective.


You can get not one but TWO Porche Cayman's for the price that speaker manufacturer is asking.


 

RE: Fleece - should be used on inside of enclosure, posted on July 28, 2015 at 17:03:16
Yeah, I realize the price is steep but still I wondered: Could these speakers possibly be worth the asking price for anyone who has the money and/or has heard them?

Those acrylic baffle/stand assembly castings must be pretty expensive to manufacture on a low-volume basis, sure.

No takers, no affirmers so far.

 

Oooohh - stereo Porsches!! (nt), posted on July 28, 2015 at 17:45:51
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RE: Comma versus decimal point, posted on July 30, 2015 at 10:17:49
"Sorry about the typo. I did not even notice it until you pointed it out."

Yes, this is what I'm talking about - being sloppy on important points.

:)

 

The R&D and Manufacturing of a Porche is many orders of magnitude higher., posted on July 30, 2015 at 11:38:49
Edp
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There is no justification for the price of the speakers other than, "if we can get it".

Field coil adds more mystic overtones than R&D, materials or manufacture. Expensive yes, but no more so than ceramic brake system on modern sports cars.

 

RE: Comma versus decimal point, posted on July 30, 2015 at 18:13:06
Sorry about the slop, guys!

 

RE: Very cool design, posted on August 3, 2015 at 08:18:23
EduardG
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wonder if they charge extra for piano finish...

 

RE: Over $100,00 for a pair of single-driver speakers?, posted on August 3, 2015 at 08:19:33
EduardG
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down to 25 Hz. Yeah, right...

 

RE: The R&D and Manufacturing of a Porche is many orders of magnitude higher., posted on August 3, 2015 at 08:22:05
EduardG
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wonder if they charge extra for piano finish...

 

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