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Posted on September 16, 2014 at 16:08:06
Travis
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I've had not so good experiences with the single driver Tektons, had an upper mid-range peak I couldn't live with.

But I'm still tempted. What about the two-ways, like the Lore?

Would love to read some feedback on the floor standers.




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RE: Tekton, posted on September 16, 2014 at 20:03:51
Mick Wolfe
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I've heard the Lores and owned the M-Lores. Both are excellent values with none of the problems you mention. Personally have never had any luck with single driver speakers, but my experience here is limited. FWIW, when I've heard Lowther based systems in the past, they've left me unimpressed. Maybe with the "right" design there would be magic, but I've yet to hear it.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 17, 2014 at 03:58:03
Ozzy
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I had the Pendragons for a brief period and I heard no such peak. They were actually quite good speakers, especially when one considers the price.

Oz



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RE: Tekton, posted on September 17, 2014 at 06:28:44
msa
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Can't say enough good things about the M-lores.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 17, 2014 at 06:50:20
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Plus 1 for the M Lores. They are a great sounding speaker especially for the price........

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 18, 2014 at 15:23:35
Travis
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Is the M-Lore the same as the Mini Lore, 34" floor stander?

TIA


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RE: Tekton, posted on September 18, 2014 at 18:12:45
Farm Boss
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I haven't posted in these forums for a while and had to request my password, but I wanted to chime in on this thread. I also was curious about Tekton. I had never heard of them before. I have been upgrading my system over the last year or so. I recently acquired a Decware Mystery Amp, pre-amp and phono stage. I have had a great experience with my headphone rig a Decware Mini-Torrie so I chose to stay with this company for my big rig. I had been running Martin Logan ESL's with my previous Amp an older Denon. The Denon had enough power to push the ESL's but my new tube amp never could play the ML's with enough authority. I expressed my concerns over on the Decware Forum and someone mentioned looking into the Tekton Pendragons. The reason I took the trouble to log in is that I am so very impressed with these speakers on my tube amp. The sound is so much better in every way than the ESL (either on the Denon or with the Mystery Amp) The bass is super, the soundstage is way better and it is cleaner/clearer and just has the right synergy. No bottlenecks at all. The amp and speaker just seem so right and I just absolutely love them. I also was concerned a little bit about Tekton's reputation, but I spoke with Eric a few times and he was wonderful to deal with. Also they shipped the speakers very quickly and I got them in about a week. If you have any questions please post and I will try to answer them. I want to point out that these speakers are really quite large and you may or may not have the room for them. For me I don't need to get wife approval as they are in my workshop and it is all mine. This is my end-game system as I am completely happy. It has taken me years to get here and I am now just going to be focused on collecting vinyl and maybe getting a new cartridge down the road.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 18, 2014 at 22:14:25
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Yes. That description pretty much fits the M-Lore. While not actually very "mini", it's noticeably smaller than the Lore.

 

RE: Tekton, thanks Boss and all others., posted on September 19, 2014 at 07:30:14
Travis
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This has been helpful.

Congratualtions, Boss. The Pendragons are out of my budget. I think maybe the M-Lores would fit my 35wpc Jolida just fine. I haven't been able to find a mini monitor in that price range that floats my boat.


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RE: Tekton, posted on September 19, 2014 at 08:04:30
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Farm Boss,

Thanks very much for weighing in here. I've been following this thread with interest, because I'm in the upgrade mode and have been eyeing the Pendragons and the Enzos. It's great to hear from an owner.

My big concern with the Pendragons is size. How big is your listening room? What kind of music do you listen to?

Happy listening,

Jim

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RE: Tekton, posted on September 19, 2014 at 09:04:08
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Mick,

How does the M-Lore compare to the Lore? Did you go with the M-Lore because you preferred it or was cost the determining factor?

I'm dying to hear from someone who has heard both!

Thanks!

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 19, 2014 at 11:31:53
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I picked the M-Lore mainly because it was going in a 10 x 11 room. As I later found out, it did just fine in a room roughly twice that size. If you're trying to fill a big space and want something that plays a bit louder (and need the 3db gain in efficiency) probably the Lore is a better fit. On a refinement basis alone, I preferred the M-lore ever so slightly. I think it's tweeter may be a bit more forgiving to boot. With this all said, I can only assume the Enzo might just be the best of both worlds....if your budget permits.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 19, 2014 at 17:22:57
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Jim- The room is really a three car garage turned into a den/workshop/listening room. I put drywall up and the ceiling is high with exposed insulation. The room sounds pretty good without any echoes and I don't really have any room treatments but behind my listening chair I have all my records on bookshelves which seems to work for diffusing the sound waves bouncing back. i have the speakers about 9 feet apart and my chair is back about the same creating an equall sided triangle. When it is warm enough I keep the garage doors open (no neighbors near) and in the winter I have a built in heater. I tend to listen to classic hard rock the most but also like classic country and big band. Tonight I listened to Neil Young And then the Cars. My son loaned me an album from the Black Keys (this one didn't seem to have the same sound quality as my old records which I am thinking it was compressed or something.).

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 19, 2014 at 17:42:22
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Very helpful context. Thanks again.

Happy listening,

Jim

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RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 07:15:45
songforyou
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Thanks for the response Mick.

I actually owned the regular Lores for about a year or so. Ended up selling them to a friend. i really liked them (damn exciting), but there was just this ever so slight edge in the upper mids or lower highs that I couldn't alleviate. I ended up purchasing the Lore-S model. It is more refined all around and more detailed, but I think a little less full. More "audiophile" and slightly less fun. I have a very neutral and detailed low powered tube amp and I can't help but think that I would have been better moving to the more forgiving M-Lores.

Does this make sense?

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 07:56:14
sonicboom
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>>I actually owned the regular Lores for about a year or so. Ended up selling them to a friend. i really liked them (damn exciting), but there was just this ever so slight edge in the upper mids or lower highs that I couldn't alleviate<<

In my experience, this "edge" is more than likely due to the whizzer cone. I may be a bit more sensitive to this coloration than most, but I've never heard a driver with a whizzer (even the expensive ones like Lowthers and AER's) that didn't exhibit this issue in the upper mids to some extent. Then again I haven't heard all the whizzer coned drivers out there, so there maybe one or more that manage to avoid this. By the way, in the new Lore Reference, the driver does not have a whizzer cone so it's possible that this "edge" is now gone.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 09:13:09
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Sonicboom might have a good point. When I listened to a pair of Lore's for the first time, the whizzer was the first thing that caught my eye. My friend had upgraded the x-over with better components ( a total PITA BTW ) of the same original values in an effort to tame things down a bit. I think he was partially successful, but the whizzer may have been the real culprit all along. Nonetheless, his Lore's sounded pretty good when driven with tubes (Latino ST 70) vs his solid state JOB 225. This all said, and I'm using sonic memory here, the M-Lore doesn't have a whizzer and it's overall presentation is more laid back. After owning it for a few weeks, I concluded that it fell more in the "music lover" category yet had no trouble highlighting component changes and superior program material. Your decision is now only complicated by the fact the new Lore no longer has the whizzer.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 10:50:52
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Thanks Mick and Sonic. Your comments confirm my thoughts and experience. I too have a glorious refurbished ST-70 and an even better EL84 SEP by Finale Audio here in Canada. Both sets of Lores were great with tubes. And you are both right in that my decision is now further complicated by the new reference Lore. Would have popped for the M-Lore just for kicks, but now I'm stuck.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 12:45:12
Mick Wolfe
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Well to further complicate, the Oriel 10 looks just as interesting at a $150 savings over the Lore/Lore Ref. Looks like it might have the same soft dome tweeter as the M-Lore. Maybe a call to Eric is in order.

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 16:17:15
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Please let us know what happens.

If I can sell a piece of gear I no longer use, I might pop, too.


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RE: Tekton, posted on September 20, 2014 at 19:23:48
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I purchased the M-Lore's because I wanted a smaller speaker to fit my room 15X23. Cost was also a consideration. I found a used pair in walnut veneer with a silver cap on the tweeter and non std. grills. I am running mine with a 6 watt per channel tube amp and only have to turn the volume knob to 9 o'clock unless I really want to rock out then I turn it to 10 o'clock......

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 27, 2014 at 06:47:20
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I have the Lore-S and also the OB4.5 (single driver fostex). Since I greatly prefer the OB4.5, you should take my opinion with the requisiste grains of salt.

The Lore-S definitely does not have the midrange peak. I love the clarity and speed of the 4.5 and have learned to listen around that. The LoreS does not have the same clarity. It also has a much more defined sweet spot, outside of which things sound a bit mushy. In fact, to my ear, they always sound a bit mushy (compared to 4.5). They definitely respond to better equipment though, so don't stint there.

I helped a friend buy the M Lore. On their just-ok front end, the speakers sounded good, certainly blowing his mind. Very similar to the LoreS I thought. I was tempted to try to sell him my LoreS, but that was out of his price range.

Lenny

 

RE: Tekton, posted on September 27, 2014 at 07:13:00
Travis
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Thanks for the post.

I owned the 4.5 a couple of years ago and couldn't get past the upper mid-range peak. Yours could very well sound different from mine. He's changing the design again according to the web site.


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