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Posted on March 16, 2014 at 17:36:59
Tom Brennan
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There's an EV Patrician discussion on the normal speaker asylum, EV guru input would be interesting.

 

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RE: Roger that, and ping DJK, Don Bunce, and Jim Long too (if you're watching)., posted on March 16, 2014 at 22:01:29
Paul Eizik
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Just did a google search with the name of the son of our audio guru with the 30W from my Dad's hi-fi club back in the day, and an obituary turned up! More to come on this, as my memories are all from being back in the day in the 8th to 9th grade era. There were apparently at least 2 variants of the 30W, with the earlier ones having paper cones and some later ones having styrofoam cones. The Patricians with 30W's were made well into the 70's, with the entire later output going to Japan as the stories go, where the SET craze was going some some 15 to 20 years before it hit here in 1992 with the appearance of Sound Practices magazine. At any rate, when you get down to 16 Hz there's only one driver left standing: the mighty 30W! With the cone area of five 15 inch woofers, I've yet to hear the equal of a 30W with the C1 16 Hz on the pedal of a very large pipe organ. Some of the current horn loaded sub designs like the Edgar Seismic and Tom Danley's Lab Horn can come close though.

Paul

 

RE: Roger that, and ping DJK, Don Bunce, and Jim Long too (if you're watching)., posted on March 17, 2014 at 01:38:41
Don Bunce
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Back in 1970 when I was attending Valparaiso Technical Institute, our audio club had a 30W in an open backed box(probably the packing crate).

With it on it's back(woofer facing up) it was fairly impressive. We bottomed it out with Donovan's Mellow Yellow, though....

We had accumulated some of the drivers and horns with the plan to build a pair of Patrician 800s.

Electrovoice donated 3 experimental cabinets to us that were 1 foot shorter than the standard 800s.

We removed the tops of two of the cabinets, and cut 1 foot off the top and bottom of the third, and mounted them on the first two to get the right size cabinets.

We then had to build the mid bass box, rout the holes, etc.
These were made of 1" marine plywood, painted flat black, and very heavy, so it was quite a project moving them from the workshop to the Audio Club room in one of the dorms. IIRC, a scene or two from Frankenstein was reenacted in the process...

Eventually, all the drivers, horns, crossovers, and a second 30W were obtained, some of it donated by Electrovoice.

Finally, everything was installed, and ready to be tried out.

Unfortunately, having a listening room in a dorm was not ideal, as "quiet hours" were enforced so students could study or sleep, or other such nonsense, so these speakers couldn't be used to anywhere near their capability most of the time.

This, however, was a special occasion, and our club sponsor(Vice President and part owner of the school) was there, so no restrictions were imposed.

I don't remember what all was played, but "Tequila" by the Champs was played at a ridiculous volume and shook everything.

The dorm caretaker came in ready to read us the riot act, but when he saw the VP, he just turned around and left. He had been pounding on the door, but no one heard him....

Someone mentioned that you couldn't bottom out the woofers, but since we had done it previously, we said "Oh, yes you can" and put on Mellow Yellow.

Now that they were in their proper enclosures, they didn't bottom out, but they sure did shake the room.

Too bad they don't make them anymore, they were fun speakers...

 

RE: It's always good to hear a 30w tale., posted on March 17, 2014 at 20:02:56
Paul Eizik
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Especially nowadays when some audiophiles think a 5 inch driver is a woofer, and a 10 inch direct radiator is a serious sub.

 

Rodgers Organ, posted on March 19, 2014 at 14:52:31
djk
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I wish I had kept mine, I let it go to an organ collector.

Mine was from a Rodgers Organ installation that also included a Klipsch LaScala.

Frankly, Baldwin had a quad 15 cabinet that was better. The drivers had a 15hz Fs with a higher x-max than the EV, were less expensive, and available.

 

Another 30" EV speaker story , posted on March 24, 2014 at 23:14:18
nicoroxlm
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Responded to an add about a pair of Altec VOTT speakers....the owner was an exmarine from WWII who was married to a Japanese wife!! He was using an EV 30" speaker as a subwoofer driving it with a Marants 8B tube amp. The speaker enclosure was a closet size poured concrete reinforced structure. The Pair of VOTT A7-500 cabs were driven by Marants 9 amps. He was retired and moving and wanted to sell everything. Suffice it to say I bought the VOTT cabs immediately. He only wanted $550 !! the EV 30" for $50!! The model 9s went to his friend. The couple was so nice I did not want to buy the Marants 8b figuring that it was easy to transport and he could use it.....onlý wanted $650 for it. The EV 30" only had a 2" VC and magnet size of a 15" driver but was very efficient and able to respond down to 16 Hzs. These speakers became the basis of my surround sound home theater set up with 5 VOTT cabs etc. Crazy big system !!

 

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