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Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck

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Posted on September 23, 2015 at 18:51:57
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Performance: powerful, con cojones, very satisfying:
Sonics: full-bodied, highly dynamic

Highly recomended

 

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RE: Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck, posted on September 23, 2015 at 19:21:13
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All three of the Honeck/PSO/RR SACDs are excellent.

 

RE: Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck, posted on September 24, 2015 at 00:25:54
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I agree with you about this recording - the performance is not only powerful, but also very imaginative. As I'd previously written on another site:
It's a wonderful interpretation IMHO, with a great deal of spontaneity - and some of Honeck's rethinkings of balance (a couple of which he refers to in his booklet notes) are spectacularly successful. I also love the flexibility of tempo in this performance - it certainly enlivens the listening, and I find it very convincing!

I'm a little less sanguine about the SQ - it's a little close-in for my taste, although still very good. I listened to it at about the same time that I finally got around to listening to Harnoncourt's Bruckner 5th with the VPO - that's a recording with a sense of spaciousness that's much more to my taste. But of course so many of our SQ preferences are just personal taste!

 

Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 24, 2015 at 06:41:31
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RE: Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck, posted on September 24, 2015 at 10:38:46
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I listened in Stereo.

 

RE: Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck, posted on September 24, 2015 at 10:40:53
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I agree it is close up. I don't mind that perspective however.

 

RE: Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 24, 2015 at 11:47:24
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We have 70 members in our audio club here in Texas and my friend has 90 in Florida. 160 audiophiles. About 10 have surround sound. Surround sound systems are also used mainly to watch and listen to movies. For audiophiles surround is a small niche in an already small nich and your constant pushing of surround is not going to change that. I would much rather have your expertise dedicated to 2 channel which is what most of us listen too.
Alan

 

I think you are fairly well served....................., posted on September 24, 2015 at 14:04:40
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by the many reviewers in print and on the web. Although my interest is shared with a small subset of audiophiles, I am confident that my efforts are appreciated by them.

In this case, however, I think you are scratching your own itch because my question did not "push" MCH but only asked on what format the OP based his assessment.

 

Thanks. (NT), posted on September 24, 2015 at 14:05:15
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RE: I think you are fairly well served....................., posted on September 24, 2015 at 14:08:05
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I was just wondering since SACD seems to be the major source of surround sound and SACD is disappearing what is the future of surround other than movies. I know there are plenty of 2 channel reviewers but they normally don't post on the asylum
Alan

 

SACD's are disappearing faster than I can purchase them..., posted on September 24, 2015 at 15:10:40
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at least on Amazon.

Link below: First few pages are not yet released.


First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: I think you are fairly well served....................., posted on September 24, 2015 at 15:17:18
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Well, there are still SACDs being released in modest numbers, there are BD-A discs, there are MCH DSD/FLAC file downloads and I have not yet heard everything that I have already bought.

 

RE: Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 SACD - DSD Pittsburgh Symphony, Manfred Honeck, posted on September 24, 2015 at 17:07:48
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I'm not a Bruckner fan, but I really like the Honeck/Mahler symphonies on Exton (they are hybrid CD/2-channel SACD).

I've read that ticket sales in Pgh have dropped off recently, which is unfortunate.

 

Multichannel of course! [nt] ;-), posted on September 25, 2015 at 00:35:46
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RE: Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 25, 2015 at 00:35:49
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Well someone has to do it! As a primary 2/ch guy ,I will admit that there are some multi/ch tracks that are transformative and this happens to be one of them. The stereo is indeed closed in but far from it in multi/ch. Kal's efforts are just fine as they are, as I'm enjoying multi/ch sound with a well treated room and Digital room correction and mostly due to his push on the later as well.

 

RE: Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 25, 2015 at 06:36:27
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There always has to be someone ahead of his time to listen to a different drummer and challenge the status quo. True progress would not be possible otherwise. In these newer technologies, like Mch and room correction, there could be no one better than Kal to take on that role. His experience, his knowledge, his temperament, his estimable writing skills and his genuine truth seeking nature make him the best of the best in audio journalism today, IMHO.

It is not just me, but most all the frequent classical concert goers I know well are way beyond totally convinced that Mch coupled with room correction are providing the very finest home audio music reproduction ever heard in terms of greater truth to the live event. Change of an entrenched, long established set of norms is always hard. But, this stuff is the real deal and a significant step up over the stereo my friends and I had known for decades before now.

It is indeed a great shame that many more audiophiles have not heard it on a high quality, properly set up system. But, that does not invalidate these technologies and their capabilities. It just makes those of us who agree with Kal on them a minority, a fortunate few, for now at least.

 

RE: Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 25, 2015 at 11:21:22
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@ Fitzcaraldo215 I couldn't think of your moniker at the time of my post but it was indeed you and Kal both that indeed swayed me to my new world of multi/ch sacd bliss! The Audyssey XT32 I experienced for the first time with an Marantz 8801 with an Oppo 105 for 2/ch, this leveled the playing field between the two and was the final piece of the puzzel with multi/ch coming out on top from my ever growing sacd collection.

Just wanted to say Thanks guys for going against the trend and holding it down!

 

RE: Did you listen in stereo or multichannel? (NT), posted on September 25, 2015 at 12:27:28
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Thank you so much. That is very gratifying, and I am quite sure Kal feels the same way.

Neither Kal nor I need to engage in this Mch or room correction advocacy to make a buck, win popularity contests or to have our egos bolstered. We share these views with fellow audiophiles only because we believe they are true and that more people should know about them, even against all odds.

 

I enjoyed this too..., posted on September 25, 2015 at 13:28:35
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...although I wouldn't put the performance itself into the very top tier in my experience. Recorded sound is indeed splendid (stereo). Here's a link to my review (the second of two) at HRAudio.net:

 

The Harnoncourt/VPO B5th recording I referred to is also multi-channel [nt], posted on September 28, 2015 at 15:54:52
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