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Posted on May 30, 2015 at 13:51:05
jhrlrd
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Is it correct to assume that if the original recording is not done in Hi-rez, then a download of say 192/24 will not be really any better than CD?

Or does it help to play back a lower rez file at a higher rate?

 

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RE: noob question, posted on May 30, 2015 at 13:56:46
John Elison
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You cannot make a low resolution recording into a higher resolution recording. You can always make it sound different by remastering, but its resolution can never be increased.

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John Elison

 

RE: noob question, posted on May 30, 2015 at 14:10:59
jhrlrd
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thanks, that's kinda what I thought. So why do they market older recordings like Miles Davis for example,in a hi rez format?

Marketing scam? and also, why would they offer various bit rates? like good, better, best if it can't be better than the original?
Surely someone would recognize this right away.

 

RE: noob question, posted on May 30, 2015 at 14:36:52
ted_b
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the higher rez PCM and DSD stuff that uses the master analog tapes is NOT the same as saying they are taking cd and upsampling. So for Miles Davis (the example you used) transferring the MUCH more musical master analog tapes to something like DSD or 24/192 PCM (and treating them with care, with less compression, less eq, etc) is a significant improvement over compressing the shit out of it and putting it out on cd, like was done in the 80's, etc.

Are these 50's and 60's recordings hirez? No, but to be able to finally hear the analog masters is leaps and bounds better than the cd offerings, and worthy of using hirez sampling rates. For true native hirez recordings, go find Channel Classics, Pentatone, Reference Recordings, Sound Liason (in PCM), Soundkeeper, etc.

So don't mix metaphors here. Many of these newer hirez offerings (of jazz label catalogs like from Verve, Blue Note, etc...or direct tape to DSD archiving like Yarlung and others) are indeed worth their premium costs. If you find they are simply taking 16 bit cd masters and upsampling them, stay away from them (and the label).

 

RE: noob question, posted on May 31, 2015 at 01:19:32
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Although I would not condone the mosrepresentation of an upsampled 16/44.1 resording as true hi-rez, nevertheless they can offfer some advantage over the redbook original.

Although there is no more data created, when replayed correctly any negative effects of the anti-aliasing digital filter ( pre-ringing etc.)can be subjectively less intrusive as it is placeed so much further away from the audio band.

Of course if the listener has the facilities to upsample himself (or herself) either via computer or on the fly on his/her player then there is no point in paying a premium for the hi-rez purchase.

 

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